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10-19-2021, 07:50 AM | #35731 | |
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I will grant you look, they don't bother me but each to his own. But drive? A 7 seater SUV is not any better, they all stink to drive. Same for represent, they all represent the same exact thing, you've ball and chained yourself. I don't get it. |
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10-19-2021, 08:36 AM | #35732 | |
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Hell even my X5 40i with that silky smooth b58 drives significantly better than any minivan I've ever driven. It handles better, it's quicker, and you drop it in sports+ mode - the air suspension lowers itself down a notch, stiffens up, the side bolsters in the seat shift to provide more lateral support, throttle response is sharpened. C'mon now....
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I seen this earlier today, a minivan with a bumper sticker that made me think of the past few minivan post.
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You obviously have not driven an X7m50i with DHP.
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Speaking of not getting it, what I don't get is your ball and chained comment. What is that about? |
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Compared to a toyota sienna? Yeah it's pretty damn amazing. I don't understand - are you comparing it to a sports car, or to a minivan? You seem to be flip flopping....
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10-19-2021, 11:26 AM | #35739 | |
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Ball and chain refers to the "symbolism" comment made by someone above, the minivan screams "I settled for family life" but somehow a 5500 pound SUV doesn't, i don't get it, like at all. It's as irrational as women hating on station wagons. |
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It's all in your heads, attractive upper middle class white women said wagons and minivans were passé so they are. |
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Hell... take a 40i for a drive... even that is a significantly better drive than any minivan. As far as the image - I don't think it's the "i've settled for family life" that's the issue - because as you said, an SUV says the same thing. Rather, minivan to me screams, "i've settled for a mundane life where I pick bland convenience over style and excitement and passion". This also has nothing to do with what attractive upper-middle class white women have to say - since you're generalizing there I'm assuming you're making that reference because you're conveying that they don't know the first thing about cars. This happens to be an automotive forum and generally speaking people here know more about cars than the average individual, and in turn are generally less influenced by some broader, misinformed thinking. All this being said, there's a relative line that gets drawn somewhere. Someone driving a 2 seater may say they hate 2+2 coupes. Someone driving a 2+2 coupe may say they hate 4 door sedans. Someone driving a sedan may say they hate SUVs. You get the idea. I choose to draw my line between SUV & Minivan. I enjoy the comfort and space the SUV offers along with the looks, while still maintaining a relatively engaging drive (depending on the SUV of course). A minivan removes any driver engagement and style and swings 100% in favor of convenience. I understand minivans.... but I don't like them. You on the other hand seem to simply not understand.
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I had just finished my morning coffee as I regurgitated that all out
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