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      08-11-2017, 02:37 PM   #133
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With that logic pain killing medications should never have been invented b/c some people use them to their detriment.
Well that's the logic dude is using.

Complaining about the devices that his generation made.

I got into a similiar discussion with another person in my neighborhood. Past generations taught us millenials to get educated and get jobs in tech, tolerant different races and cultures, care about the environment and such.

Well now we are grown up doing exactly that, and yet all the past generations do is whine about it. Like damn y'all mad that we actually listened to you?
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Well that's the logic dude is using.

Complaining about the devices that his generation made.

I got into a similiar discussion with another person in my neighborhood. Past generations taught us millenials to get educated and get jobs in tech, tolerant different races and cultures, care about the environment and such.

Well now we are grown up doing exactly that, and yet all the past generations do is whine about it. Like damn y'all mad that we actually listened to you?
I understand your point, but, the near addiction of so many people to "being connected" is not great. The people happy millennials listened and have become so enamored with telecom tech are making money off of it. (just watch an hour of TV and if it isn't a car related advert it's a phone or data package.)

It's almost become a sort of cocoon for people. I know I'm guilty of that.

I wish our Pres would stay off of Twitter a bit.
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I understand your point, but, the near addiction of so many people to "being connected" is not great. The people happy millennials listened and have become so enamored with telecom tech are making money off of it. (just watch an hour of TV and if it isn't a car related advert it's a phone or data package.)

It's almost become a sort of cocoon for people. I know I'm guilty of that.

I wish our Pres would stay off of Twitter a bit.
i agree with the addiction comment. I do think it's a borderline addiction with the majority of the world.

how, is that millennial specific issue, or did it just happen to become an issue during our generation?

for example, let's say the devices came out in the 80's. is that then a generation Y problem? and that's my point: we get into this "my generation/your generation" arguments thinking that the buck has to stop with someone, but the reality is that the buck never stops, because it can't.

i mean damn bro, if i could listen to each generation complain, i'm sure this country has been going down the shitter since 1776 lol. most issues can't be chalked up to blaming it on generations, yet it's easy to attempt to scapegoat an entire group that way one doesn't have to take any responsibility for their own efforts into the problem.
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It's different.

The Millennials enjoy a rich and prosperous life without doing anything; hence their laziness.
This generation enjoys the spoils of parents who are inheriting wealth from the baby boomers and continually complain of the lack of opportunity and the price of real estate, so they just party on.
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how, is that millennial specific issue, or did it just happen to become an issue during our generation?
Probably just timing, but, that doesn't make it positive. I do believe that millennials have had it generally easier than previous generations and have a hard time accepting that things don't always go your way. Maybe baby boomers had it easy as well. Not the same absolute level of material 'stuff' but still a lot more relative to previous generations. And that showed in some of the excesses of some in that group.

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i respectfully disagree, especially implying that we are lazy.

each generation has it "easier" than the next. that's how it's SUPPOSE to work. the next generation that comes after us is gonna have it easier than us millennials, and so on and so on.

i'm pretty sure the people who grew up in the 1920's will think the people who lived through the 1980's are a bunch of pussies. i'm sure the people who grew up in 1800' will think the people whining about the great depression during the 1920's were just whining.

really the generation argument holds little water. especially since if it actually did, then the people who are complaining about millennials should show some responsibility in being horrible parents, as they generally are the ones who raised said millennials.

it's funny that the people who imply that millennials are lazy and don't take responsibility are the ones not taking any responsibility.

a vicious cycle.
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i respectfully disagree, especially implying that we are lazy.

each generation has it "easier" than the next. that's how it's SUPPOSE to work. the next generation that comes after us is gonna have it easier than us millennials, and so on and so on.

i'm pretty sure the people who grew up in the 1920's will think the people who lived through the 1980's are a bunch of pussies. i'm sure the people who grew up in 1800' will think the people whining about the great depression during the 1920's were just whining.

really the generation argument holds little water. especially since if it actually did, then the people who are complaining about millennials should show some responsibility in being horrible parents, as they generally are the ones who raised said millennials.

it's funny that the people who imply that millennials are lazy and don't take responsibility are the ones not taking any responsibility.

a vicious cycle.
I agree and disagree. Generally, the older generation has something to complain about the newer generation and vice versa. However, each generation generally shares unique characteristics and are a product of their times, which was basically built by the previous generations. Are we to blame the old or the new for what has become the now? That's another debate.
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i respectfully disagree, especially implying that we are lazy.

each generation has it "easier" than the next. that's how it's SUPPOSE to work. the next generation that comes after us is gonna have it easier than us millennials, and so on and so on.

i'm pretty sure the people who grew up in the 1920's will think the people who lived through the 1980's are a bunch of pussies. i'm sure the people who grew up in 1800' will think the people whining about the great depression during the 1920's were just whining.

really the generation argument holds little water. especially since if it actually did, then the people who are complaining about millennials should show some responsibility in being horrible parents, as they generally are the ones who raised said millennials.

it's funny that the people who imply that millennials are lazy and don't take responsibility are the ones not taking any responsibility.

a vicious cycle.
I respectfully disagree. Gen X should be taking the major responsibility for where millennials are today. The PC mentality taken to extreme that gave us participation trophies and the everyone is a winner mentality has made a generation that cannot accept losing. You are right that the ones that raised the millenials should show some responsibility for raising pussies. Of course, not all Gen X parents raised their millennial offspring like that and as with any other generation, there are some outstanding millenials - some.
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Probably just timing, but, that doesn't make it positive. I do believe that millennials have had it generally easier than previous generations and have a hard time accepting that things don't always go your way. Maybe baby boomers had it easy as well. Not the same absolute level of material 'stuff' but still a lot more relative to previous generations. And that showed in some of the excesses of some in that group.

I think I'm guilty of a thread jacking
I hate the bad rap that millennials always get. I am one but definitely not the stereotypical(in the eyes of media and Gen X) millennial but this annoys me so much. Studies/analysis have proven that we are not really any more lazy or entitled than any other generation. And you guys(not you specifically) are the ones that raised "us" so if anything you are partly to blame.

I do agree on the PC and everyone's a winner aspect though.

https://link.springer.com/article/10...ntent=deeplink

https://www.jstor.org/stable/4168299...n_tab_contents
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I hate the bad rap that millennials always get. I am one but definitely not the stereotypical(in the eyes of media and Gen X) millennial but this annoys me so much. Studies/analysis have proven that we are not really any more lazy or entitled than any other generation. And you guys(not you specifically) are the ones that raised "us" so if anything you are partly to blame.

I do agree on the PC and everyone's a winner aspect though.

https://link.springer.com/article/10...ntent=deeplink

https://www.jstor.org/stable/4168299...n_tab_contents
Stereotyping Millennials, like any stereotyping, results in being wrong a lot of the time. Having said that, carrying on with the BabyBoomer / Millennial comparison - BabyBoomers "misbehaved" with some of the anit-war protests, campus takeovers, etc, etc. They were protesting a war where people were being killed and maimed in large numbers. (admit that many of the protestors and rioters were just caught up in the fun). Now fast forward to Trump's election. Some of the Millennial reaction is nearly comical. And the nonsense going on in Universities is truly comical. Pets to calm the hurt from the election, time off, and on and on. Just the other day a friend sent me a link where a professor at my Alma Mater is allowing students to choose their grade if they don't agree with the grade given to them as a stress reduction measure. And this is a fairly conservative school and not a sort of fluff course.

My very cynical assessment is that Millennials are being played by big business (not oil or steel or auto) for their $$ and being played by one political party for votes. By the links you posted I don't think you are being manipulated.
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Liberal hypocrisy! Ha Double Negative for sure!
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I agree and disagree. Generally, the older generation has something to complain about the newer generation and vice versa. However, each generation generally shares unique characteristics and are a product of their times, which was basically built by the previous generations. Are we to blame the old or the new for what has become the now? That's another debate.
i agree with you that each generation has their own defining characteristics.

I just don't think "laziness" is one of those characteristics that fits ANY generation. that's on an individual basis.
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I respectfully disagree. Gen X should be taking the major responsibility for where millennials are today. The PC mentality taken to extreme that gave us participation trophies and the everyone is a winner mentality has made a generation that cannot accept losing. You are right that the ones that raised the millenials should show some responsibility for raising pussies. Of course, not all Gen X parents raised their millennial offspring like that and as with any other generation, there are some outstanding millenials - some.
you might have a point with the PC mentality. but i can definitely counter that, however that starts becoming a different topic...or is it?

PC mentality doesn't equal pussies.

i think most millennials, just like most of any generation, are average - outstanding. the few that are scumbags are part of a percentage of people who the world has to always deal with being shit since the beginning of time. it's nothing new, and won't be any different in the future.

for example, should i blame an ENTIRE generation for giving us the war on drugs? how many people come from that generation that didn't support that nonsense?

should i blame an entire generation for giving us Boy George?
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should i blame an entire generation for giving us Boy George?
Or Justin Bieber
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Or Justin Bieber
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Another example of the tolerant left for us all. Obviously she will neither be asked to resign, nor will she face any repercussions most likely. Fake news surely won't cover it either.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...p-assassinated
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Another example of the tolerant left for us all. Obviously she will neither be asked to resign, nor will she face any repercussions most likely. Fake news surely won't cover it either.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...p-assassinated
In all fairness:
Asked about the comment, Chappelle-Nadal later told the Post-Dispatch that she was just "frustrated" and didn't really mean it.

"I didn't mean what I put up. Absolutely not. I was very frustrated. Things have got to change."
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