[dscabra]

Reading some of these horror stories makes me appreciate my marriage of nearly 36 years even more. I know that our situation is definitely not the norm anymore, but I can't imagine not having my wife, who is also my best friend, by my side every day.

[ryan stewart]

It's not that abnormal. Divorce has consistently dropped for decades and I think it's 38% pre COVID. People are waiting later and with two incomes money is less of a problem so the success rate increased

[Littlebear]

I think the #1 stated reason for divorce is "sexual incompatibility", but I may be wrong!

[ragingpanda]

Originally Posted by ryan stewart

It's not that abnormal. Divorce has consistently dropped for decades and I think it's 38% pre COVID. People are waiting later and with two incomes money is less of a problem so the success rate increased

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/divorce-rates-and-covid-19

Divorce rates are only going to the moon from here on out.

I'm just trying to do my part and save young men from making a YUGE mistake when they think with their small head and not their big head. Feminism has liberated women, but it has also liberated men from fulfilling their protector and provider roles by walking away from marriage. Go have fun just don't sign the marriage contract.

[3.0L]

Prenuptial agreements could be worth their weight in gold, particularly for 2nd marriages and beyond. My father-in-law had a prenup drawn up for his 2nd marriage and it saved his kids a huge amount of grief after he passed away. His 2nd wife turned out to be a real biatch. Prenups work for the living, too.

[ragingpanda]

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/pr...e-unfair-48729

Prenups can get tossed out in court. If the judge is having a bad day, you are shit out of luck.

Prevention is the best treatment. No marriage = no divorce

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

Dr's net worth is $800M and he's handing over $3.5M per year. Even if he pays the ex off for the next 30 years and never makes another dime he's got $695M to carry him through retirement. I think Dre's gunna be just fine.

Meh according to people on here he MIGHT be able to buy a shed in someones yard in CA if he acts quickly. Maybe get a part time uber job or something.

As for me. 16 years together. Not married. No kids. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

[3.0L]

Originally Posted by ragingpanda

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/pr...e-unfair-48729

Prenups can get tossed out in court. If the judge is having a bad day, you are shit out of luck.

Not if the prenup is properly drawn up:

https://www.rodierfamilylaw.com/news...divorce-court/

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by ragingpanda

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/divorce-rates-and-covid-19

....I'm just trying to do my part and save young men from making a YUGE mistake when they think with their small head and not their big head.....

Your life advice is exactly why I come to an off topic forum. Thank you!

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by pikkagtr

About 50% of marriages in the US end up in a divorce
Some people like to go sky diving
If I told you that half of the time your chute won't open , would you still jump ?

Classic Bill Burr line.

[c1pher]

I believe in marital type relationships, but as long as the law is part of it, it’s a no go for me. I was married for 20 years but the last 10 was a shit show. And we kept a good facade which I realized in the end didn’t help me because outsiders thought everything was great, and it gave my wife the opportunity to concoct an alternate reality on how I blew up the relationship out of the blue, even suggesting that I might be homosexual. I’m still paying for that divorce financially.

[1MOREMOD]

Yeah won't do it again myself unless wanted kids no point.

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Yeah won't do it again myself unless wanted kids no point.

Plenty of ways to have children outside of marriage like surrogates, or adoption. I understand as a single man, it’s more difficult because of all the asshole pedophiles out there.

If I could talk to my younger self, I would have done my best to convince myself not to get married and not believe in unicorns…..there aren’t any.

[XutvJet]

The more I read this thread, the more it's apparent men aren't doing their relationship due diligence prior to marriage.

I think a lot of guys in here that have been divorced are simply mad at themselves because they missed the obvious early signals that the relationship wasn't going to work out in the long run yet still got.married.

[floridaorange]

Not sure if this is a serous thread. Monogamy and holy matrimony is often a tradition in the lineage of a family. The generations of children that have grown up within families like these generally aspire to continue the tradition vs breaking it. So just as the OP here can't wrap his mind around why, personally I can't wrap my mind around why not.

[Maynard]

Originally Posted by ragingpanda

You’d have to be an utter FOOL to even consider marriage, nowadays. If this happens to financially powerful men, what do you think would happen to you?? Foolish men learn from their own mistakes. Wise men learn from others mistakes.

I highly doubt Dr. Dre will even be able to retire with how much he has to shell out monthly to this old hag. Hopefully he doesn't pull a Robin Williams and instead hires a hitman.

Seek professional therapy.

[Sara]

Originally Posted by 3.0L

Prenuptial agreements could be worth their weight in gold, particularly for 2nd marriages and beyond. My father-in-law had a prenup drawn up for his 2nd marriage and it saved his kids a huge amount of grief after he passed away. His 2nd wife turned out to be a real biatch. Prenups work for the living, too.

Postnuptial as well!

[Ximian]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

The more I read this thread, the more it's apparent men aren't doing their relationship due diligence prior to marriage.

I think a lot of guys in here that have been divorced are simply mad at themselves because they missed the obvious early signals that the relationship wasn't going to work out in the long run yet still got.married.

Why would you point this out? Why can't we just continue our misogynistic shitting on women like they're all greed, evil, and only want to use men for their money?

This thread has plenty of incel neckbeard bullshit by men who think they're some sort of catch while ignoring all of their horrifyingly negative characteristics. If the women you consistently end being in a relationship with are assholes, it's because you are indeed a shitty asshole as well.

This thread also had one extreme example where the wife was horrible. However, for each example of the wife being horrible, you can easily find dozens where the husband is far worse.

I had a relative that got married to woman after dating for a few months and moving in together right away because she lost her job. After being helped out by the extended family, she kept expecting everything to be handed to them which didn't happen. They were divorced shortly after. When I was younger, I've heard and seen plenty of examples of domestic violence against women in the neighborhood. One neighbor frequently argued with his new wife until he murdered her one night.

Women really have so many things to look forward to marriage. As a man, if you're worrying about the relatively rare extreme cases where women do horrible things while married and after divorce... I don't even know.

[Ximian]

Originally Posted by Sassicaia

You're arrangement of wife staying home while man goes to work is frankly non existent today. Here is why.

1.) feminism has said that arrangement is sexist. It has shamed it.

2.) it's rare (non existent?) that in today's worship kardashian (do nothing but live like a princes lifestyle) that woman worship, to find someone willing to do the HARD work to stay home and take care of all things outside of the man's work. They act like hiring help is actually a contributor

In today's world when married to a rich man woman want to a.) stay home, not work and if there are kids hire help. b.) if there is the pressure of work or expectations to contribute they cry sexism c.) when it comes time to divorce they want to rewind time decades as if they live in the era where woman do actually contribute half and demand massive settlements.

The problem is that in today's political climate no politician would touch this topic at the risk of being called sexist.

Ugh

Feminism is for everyone. If you're threatened by the word or disagree, grow up.

1. No, feminism has not said that this arrangement is sexist or shamed it. What it has said is the expectation of only women staying at home is sexist and should be shamed. There's a huge difference between the two points. My wife stays at home and no one is shaming us.

For practical reasons, such as recovering from child birth, breast feeding, and the typical pay disparity (another fun feminist issue) between men and women, women tend to become the stay at home spouse. Outside of those practical reasons, either person in a marriage are capable of staying at home and raising kids.

2. What the actual fuck is wrong with you?

2. a. I would love to be able to hire people to handle all the harder chores around the house. This is a gender-neutral desire.

[3.0L]

Originally Posted by dscabra

Reading some of these horror stories makes me appreciate my marriage of nearly 36 years even more. I know that our situation is definitely not the norm anymore, but I can't imagine not having my wife, who is also my best friend, by my side every day.

I big congratulations to you both! We marked our 52nd early this year. Heh!

I think there are good and bad folks on both sides of the gender aisle. I have witnessed 3 divorces including relatives and friends.

One friend divorced his wife for no apparent reason to us, except he told me one day that her boobs weren't big enough. She was one of the sweetest gals I ever met. It made no sense to me.

The wife of another friend divorced him, apparently because he was an inadequate provider. Never mind that they lived in a big, up-scale home in one of the nicest areas in town and she always drove a new luxury car. From my perspective, she was never satisfied with anything. She ended up inheriting millions from her mom, even fighting her sisters who were rightful heirs as well. They gave up and didn't fight, mostly because they were well off in their own right.

A close relative divorced his wife because all she did was spend his hard-earned income (from 2 jobs) while sitting on her fat ass at home, watching TV and reading scandal tabloids, all-the-while complaining that they couldn't pay all of their bills.

One of my old Army buddies divorced his wife for similar reasons - spend, spend, spend. She even chewed his ass out for "hiding" a 10 dollar bill in his wallet!

Greed is the root of all evil.

[ryan stewart]

They are right about the OP trough, incel neck beard who brags about buying prostitutes.

Dude threw his pathetic two cents into the dating thread becuase he can't get anyone to date him. So I don't think marriage is going to a problem for him for a while. His million $ 1-series is safe from all of them gold diggers.

[ragingpanda]

Originally Posted by Maynard

Seek professional therapy.

Some men learn the easy way, but most guys have to learn the hard way like the majority of the cucks in this thread. Have fun in family court!