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      04-07-2020, 10:33 PM   #10341
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Not sure what you are reading, but pretty much every article I clicked on was pretty positive the Trump organization can and will end up receiving funds in some way or form.
No law is watertight.
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      04-07-2020, 10:53 PM   #10342
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No law is watertight.
Especially not one crafted so quickly.
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      04-07-2020, 11:48 PM   #10343
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No law is watertight.
Especially not one crafted so quickly.
We have to pass it so we can read what's in it!!!
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      04-08-2020, 07:02 AM   #10344
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      04-08-2020, 07:19 AM   #10345
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That's not how Hannity will spin it.......
Come on man, they are best buddies, would you throw your best friend under the bus?
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      04-08-2020, 08:08 AM   #10346
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You guys saying that Trump's companies are not eligible, do his companies NOT have employees that may need such protection? Why would they be excluded? I can't imagine that a maid or gardener, server or bartender, front desk clerk, etc., would not need such protection. How about you? Or are you just so focused on orange man bad that you forgot about those folks?
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      04-08-2020, 09:40 AM   #10347
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You guys saying that Trump's companies are not eligible, do his companies NOT have employees that may need such protection? Why would they be excluded? I can't imagine that a maid or gardener, server or bartender, front desk clerk, etc., would not need such protection. How about you? Or are you just so focused on orange man bad that you forgot about those folks?
As long as it is proportional to what other companies are receiving under similar circumstances I agree.

Orange man may indeed be bad, but the people that work in places with his name on them are not to blame.

They are affected by this the same as everybody else.
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      04-08-2020, 10:17 AM   #10348
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As long as it is proportional to what other companies are receiving under similar circumstances I agree.

Orange man may indeed be bad, but the people that work in places with his name on them are not to blame.

They are affected by this the same as everybody else.
Too bad Trump doesn't feel that way towards others. I think if you work for Trump, you have only yourself to blame.

https://fortune.com/2016/09/30/donal...f-contractors/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...uits/85297274/
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      04-08-2020, 10:55 AM   #10349
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As long as it is proportional to what other companies are receiving under similar circumstances I agree.

Orange man may indeed be bad, but the people that work in places with his name on them are not to blame.

They are affected by this the same as everybody else.
Too bad Trump doesn't feel that way towards others. I think if you work for Trump, you have only yourself to blame.

https://fortune.com/2016/09/30/donal...f-contractors/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...uits/85297274/
so screw em, right cb? Dummies don't deserve to live since they work for the bad orange guy. Tongue FIRMLY in cheek.
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      04-08-2020, 11:34 AM   #10350
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No law is watertight.
This admin has effectively neutered congress's ability to do what they are supposed to do regarding oversight.
The admins supporters were ok with investigations being stone walled, election laws broken, Federal investigation laws being broken, tax laws being broken so they've given them a free pass.

Legal or not has not been the basis of any argument that has held any water.


The same type of warnings that were ignored for COVID19 are and have been being yelled from rooftops for democracy. They are also being ignored

They'll take the 2 trillion and do whatever the hell they want with it then state TV will tell you they're being prudent and owning libs.
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      04-08-2020, 11:41 AM   #10351
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Too bad Trump doesn't feel that way towards others. I think if you work for Trump, you have only yourself to blame.

https://fortune.com/2016/09/30/donal...f-contractors/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...uits/85297274/
Depends on the work, but yeah people that work for him should expect their paycheck to either bounce or not show up at some point given the history on it. But there are a lot of places I would expect to get ripped off at some point working at. For many the ability to not take a job based on the principle of who's name is on the company is a luxury they cannot afford. Some are proud to work for those companies.

That said, those we are talking about are honest people doing honest work and should be afforded the same protections regardless of the name on the company.
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      04-08-2020, 11:45 AM   #10352
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Too bad Trump doesn't feel that way towards others. I think if you work for Trump, you have only yourself to blame.

https://fortune.com/2016/09/30/donal...f-contractors/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...uits/85297274/
Depends on the work, but yeah people that work for him should expect their paycheck to either bounce or not show up at some point given the history on it. But there are a lot of places I would expect to get ripped off at some point working at. For many the ability to not take a job based on the principle of who's name is on the company is a luxury they cannot afford. Some are proud to work for those companies.

That said, those we are talking about are honest people doing honest work and should be afforded the same protections regardless of the name on the company.
Well said.
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      04-08-2020, 11:53 AM   #10353
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Well said.
Yea...to say otherwise is off the charts insane.
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      04-08-2020, 12:03 PM   #10354
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Now suddenly the concern of self dealing is on the forefront.

While we are waiting on the SUPREME COURT to even let us know if the congressional committee who is in charge of tax oversight is even allowed to see the docs that would provide us with that insight. Law clearly states they are but that hasn't mattered much up to this point.

Too late now guys. What are you going to do about it? Arrest Trump? Let's call his crony AG Barr and ask.

There was a speech given in 2011 by a now famous FBI director labeled "Iron Triangles". May be of interest to Trump supporters to dig in to it. It allows you to see who you've given the country away to.
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      04-08-2020, 12:23 PM   #10355
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Not cool. Disjointed response to the crisis has repercussions.

Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word

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Although President Trump has directed states and hospitals to secure what supplies they can, the federal government is quietly seizing orders, leaving medical providers across the country in the dark about where the material is going and how they can get what they need to deal with the coronavirus pandemic.

Hospital and clinic officials in seven states described the seizures in interviews over the past week. The Federal Emergency Management Agency is not publicly reporting the acquisitions, despite the outlay of millions of dollars of taxpayer money, nor has the administration detailed how it decides which supplies to seize and where to reroute them.
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President Trump said Tuesday that he did not learn of two memos written in January and February by his own economic adviser warning that a COVID-19 pandemic could kill as many as 2 million Americans until “maybe a day ago.”

“I heard he wrote some memos talking about pandemic,” Trump said during a White House coronavirus task force briefing, “I didn’t see them. I didn’t look for them, either.”

On Jan. 29, Peter Navarro warned his colleagues at the White House that if the administration did not mount an aggressive containment strategy for the coronavirus, it could kill more than half a million Americans and cost the country nearly $6 trillion.

Nearly a month later, on Feb. 23, Navarro distributed an even more dire second memo in which he said as many as 100 million Americans could be infected with COVID-19, which might kill upwards of 2 million U.S. citizens.

On Feb. 27, Trump briefed the country on the coronavirus outbreak, assuring Americans that it was well under control.

“When you have 15 people,” Trump said of the number of reported cases in the U.S. at the time, “and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”

Pressed on whether he had been apprised of Navarro’s warnings, the president said Tuesday he had not.

“I asked him about it just a little while ago, because I read something about a memo,” Trump recalled. “I said, ‘Did you do a memo?’ I didn’t look for, I didn’t see it, I didn’t ask for him to show it to me.”
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President Trump said Tuesday that he did not learn of two memos written in January and February by his own economic adviser warning that a COVID-19 pandemic could kill as many as 2 million Americans until “maybe a day ago.”

“I heard he wrote some memos talking about pandemic,” Trump said during a White House coronavirus task force briefing, “I didn’t see them. I didn’t look for them, either.”

On Jan. 29, Peter Navarro warned his colleagues at the White House that if the administration did not mount an aggressive containment strategy for the coronavirus, it could kill more than half a million Americans and cost the country nearly $6 trillion.

Nearly a month later, on Feb. 23, Navarro distributed an even more dire second memo in which he said as many as 100 million Americans could be infected with COVID-19, which might kill upwards of 2 million U.S. citizens.

On Feb. 27, Trump briefed the country on the coronavirus outbreak, assuring Americans that it was well under control.

“When you have 15 people,” Trump said of the number of reported cases in the U.S. at the time, “and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”

Pressed on whether he had been apprised of Navarro’s warnings, the president said Tuesday he had not.

“I asked him about it just a little while ago, because I read something about a memo,” Trump recalled. “I said, ‘Did you do a memo?’ I didn’t look for, I didn’t see it, I didn’t ask for him to show it to me.”
All dates listed was well before anyone was aware of italy having a full blown outbreak which infected thousands of americans

This is some monday night qb
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Not cool. Disjointed response to the crisis has repercussions.

Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word
Im going to Predict we are going to find out the fed isn't involved it this.
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Once again did any of those article predicted the virus out breaking in a country that will cover it up for 6 weeks, lie about the number of cases, transmission, severity up to this day, bribe the international body that suppose to warn the world, a corrupt international media that would paint anything the president dose as racism and xenophobic, will occur during an impeachment partisan impeachment trail that distracted the rest of government, and finally the majority of the world doing jack shit because of various reason above.

Dude you might fool someone who unaware of what occured but your not going to fool me since I've follow this story since the beginning and was bitching about every party that resulted in this disaster prior to this exploding in our face.
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Dude you might fool someone who unaware of what occured but your not going to fool me since I've follow this story since the beginning and was bitching about every party that resulted in this disaster prior to this exploding in our face.
Dude, we get it. You read an article and made a thread in January. That doesn't make you an authority on the topic. No need to make mention of it every time something comes up that you disagree with, because it's not a valid counterpoint. It's a weak appeal to authority fallacy.
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Dude, we get it. You read an article and made a thread in January. That doesn't make you an authority on the topic. No need to make mention of it every time something comes up that you disagree with, because it's not a valid counterpoint. It's a weak appeal to authority fallacy.
Was anything i mention false? Or are you trying to ignore the facts of the events that actually occured?
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