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      12-11-2018, 03:05 PM   #1
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2019 BMW Z4 sDrive30i price starting at $49,700

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US Pricing for 2019 BMW Z4 sDrive30i is $49,700
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On the heels of the Z4 M40i pricing, BMW has just informed BIMMERPOST that the 2019 Z4 sDrive30i will be priced from $49,700.

You can find the sDrive30i ordering guide @ https://g29.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1557723

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That's much better pill to swallow than $65k for the m40i. A well equipped 30i will still be 60k.
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      12-11-2018, 03:44 PM   #3
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That's much better pill to swallow than $65k for the m40i. A well equipped 30i will still be 60k.
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$14K is a massive range between models. the M40i is just out of line.
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You can always count on Jalopnik to spread fake news. Their headline still says that the Z4 starts at $65K.

Easily the worst automotive site. Their "writers" have the writing skills and professionalism of a high schooler.
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If BMW is smart about it they will only allocate 2 or 3 of these to each store because these will be collecting dust just like the old Z4.

The Z4 does 10x better on the CPO market. At one point bmw had to give the previous gen car a 70%+ residual for us to be able to sell them. These cars were sitting here for 200-300+ days.
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If BMW is smart about it they will only allocate 2 or 3 of these to each store because these will be collecting dust just like the old Z4.

The Z4 does 10x better on the CPO market. At one point bmw had to give the previous gen car a 70%+ residual for us to be able to sell them. These cars were sitting here for 200-300+ days.
Yeah exactly. 64k for a z4m40i lol that's M2C with a little seed money or a lightly used m3/4.

And that's assuming you can option rwd on it I'm assuming you can't which makes it far from a roaster imo. Just a less practical, more expensive M440i.
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$14K is a massive range between models. the M40i is just out of line.
The old Z4 was way out of line because it didn't really offer anything, and I would have agreed with you there. This one though, if you really boil it down it's not overpriced.....it's super well equipped. The 718 Boxster S starts at $71.4k, and that is a stripper. No PDK, partial leather, no limited slip, no sports exhaust, small wheels.....all things the M40i comes with as standard. Not to mention all the tech as well (HUD, Nav, etc).

Also, for me, I know the 718 might handle better but that car is running a 350hp turbo 4 that has been criticized to no end for having no soul. I'll take the boosted six in the Z4 10/10 times.
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Yeah exactly. 64k for a z4m40i lol that's M2C with a little seed money or a lightly used m3/4.

And that's assuming you can option rwd on it I'm assuming you can't which makes it far from a roaster imo. Just a less practical, more expensive M440i.
It will be interesting to see how this fares in the market. Both the 30i and M40i are priced quite below the 718 and 718 S, respectively. But will it matter? BMW die hards may still opt for the ///M2, and those who've always wanted a Boxster may still get that.

Aside from a slightly more luxurious interior, MSRP (and better lease offers), and 6-cyl I can't think of many advantages the Z4 offers. Hopefully that will be enough.
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Yeah exactly. 64k for a z4m40i lol that's M2C with a little seed money or a lightly used m3/4.

And that's assuming you can option rwd on it I'm assuming you can't which makes it far from a roaster imo. Just a less practical, more expensive M440i.
The people looking at the Z4 are different from the M2C. They are going to want a vert - that's the selling point. The M2 at least offers some modicum of practicality.
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Yeah exactly. 64k for a z4m40i lol that's M2C with a little seed money or a lightly used m3/4.

And that's assuming you can option rwd on it I'm assuming you can't which makes it far from a roaster imo. Just a less practical, more expensive M440i.
It will be interesting to see how this fares in the market. Both the 30i and M40i are priced quite below the 718 and 718 S, respectively. But will it matter? BMW die hards may still opt for the ///M2, and those who've always wanted a Boxster may still get that.

Aside from a slightly more luxurious interior, MSRP (and better lease offers), and 6-cyl I can't think of many advantages the Z4 offers. Hopefully that will be enough.
The way I see it is if they're die hard bmw they're want the more purist M2C. I don't think it'll stack up to the 718 if I had to guess but then again it's priced below it. Perhaps the vert is the selling point over the M2C if that's what you're into. Also, looks if you fancy the Z4 styling over the M2C.
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Yeah exactly. 64k for a z4m40i lol that's M2C with a little seed money or a lightly used m3/4.

And that's assuming you can option rwd on it I'm assuming you can't which makes it far from a roaster imo. Just a less practical, more expensive M440i.
The people looking at the Z4 are different from the M2C. They are going to want a vert - that's the selling point. The M2 at least offers some modicum of practicality.
Yeah I see what you're saying. Vert is a cool feature but I guess bmw thinks that's worth X amount over a Vert m240?
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The way I see it is if they're die hard bmw they're want the more purist M2C. I don't think it'll stack up to the 718 if I had to guess but then again it's priced below it. Perhaps the vert is the selling point over the M2C if that's what you're into. Also, looks if you fancy the Z4 styling over the M2C.
This makes me curious about how the Supra will fare too. Being a coupe it will be more practical, but I just don't know how much of a market there is for that car. Japanese sports cars just do not sell. If they introduced an alternative to the likes of the Mustang and Challenger there'd be a business case.

I wouldn't say the Toyota 86 (previously Scion FRS) fit the bill. It is priced right with the Pony cars but offers none of the power that those cars offer.
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The way I see it is if they're die hard bmw they're want the more purist M2C. I don't think it'll stack up to the 718 if I had to guess but then again it's priced below it. Perhaps the vert is the selling point over the M2C if that's what you're into. Also, looks if you fancy the Z4 styling over the M2C.
This makes me curious about how the Supra will fare too. Being a coupe it will be more practical, but I just don't know how much of a market there is for that car. Japanese sports cars just do not sell. If they introduced an alternative to the likes of the Mustang and Challenger there'd be a business case.

I wouldn't say the Toyota 86 (previously Scion FRS) fit the bill. It is priced right with the Pony cars but offers none of the power that those cars offer.
Well, the GT86 also has an absolutely awful motor that leans out at high rpm, has a torque dip at 4500rpm and an interior that somehow makes the three pony cars look upscale.

I've tried to talk myself into buying one a few times, but it's just a bad car. I suspect Toyota will find a way to both remove the fun from the Z4 (what little there may be) and have a serious sales flop. Killing the backseat was also stupid.
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Yeah exactly. 64k for a z4m40i lol that's M2C with a little seed money or a lightly used m3/4.

And that's assuming you can option rwd on it I'm assuming you can't which makes it far from a roaster imo. Just a less practical, more expensive M440i.
Lap times for the Z4M40i are comparable to the M2C apparently. Not that potential customers would be considering one or the other.
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Yeah exactly. 64k for a z4m40i lol that's M2C with a little seed money or a lightly used m3/4.

And that's assuming you can option rwd on it I'm assuming you can't which makes it far from a roaster imo. Just a less practical, more expensive M440i.
The people looking at the Z4 are different from the M2C. They are going to want a vert - that's the selling point. The M2 at least offers some modicum of practicality.
The one thing about the e86 z4m coupe is that it was on par with an e46 m3...if they came out with another Zmc then it would change the dynamics of whose looking to buy what....love the m2 but if a similarly equipped z coupe came out, I'd be on that real quick
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$15k more just for the upgraded engine in the 40i? Seems hardly worth it, reviewers saying it isn't particularly powerful.
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They clearly priced both models to undercut the 718 Boxster. $59k for the base Boxster, $71k for the S and $81k for the GTS. I think it may be a tough choice for some. I think I'm glad we got our base Boxster since the performance is pretty amazing for a little 2.0L turbo. But for me it would be either the Base Boxster or the GTS. I think if you can get a very good deal on an S, it might be worthwhile.

I think the logic would be that you could get a well-optioned 30i for a base Boxster and a somewhat optioned M40i (which is an awesome engine) for the same money as a Boxster S. I would prefer the I6 over the 2.5L 4 cylinder, so would pick the BMW in that scenario, but would have a tougher time choosing between the base Boxster and the 30i just because I know I get a faster, lightweight and mid-engined car that would be great out of the box. Plus for the purists you can get manual transmissions in the Boxsters. I think even though the BMW 8 speed gets good reviews, I would still prefer the PDK.....choices choices.
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Looks like the Boxster is still the way to go
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Looks like the Boxster is still the way to go
I definitely think it depends on what you’re looking for. A nice performing, luxurious roadster or a more performance oriented , fewer frills vehicle.

What’s nice about the Boxster is that it kind of reminds me of my 135is. Both are comfortable and have nice conveniences, but are more back to basics in a sense allowing you to focus on the fun of driving.
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I've tried to talk myself into buying one a few times, but it's just a bad car. I suspect Toyota will find a way to both remove the fun from the Z4 (what little there may be) and have a serious sales flop. Killing the backseat was also stupid.
I disagree, hardly any A80 owners I know really used them to carry people around. They were really impractical, and at best just used for storage. From what I was told, if people knew the inside story on the development of the A80 then they would understand why Toyota actually wanted a two seater.

On a different note, supposedly the U.S. 6 cylinder Supra will start at around $55k.
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Yeah exactly. 64k for a z4m40i lol that's M2C with a little seed money or a lightly used m3/4.

And that's assuming you can option rwd on it I'm assuming you can't which makes it far from a roaster imo. Just a less practical, more expensive M440i.
It will be interesting to see how this fares in the market. Both the 30i and M40i are priced quite below the 718 and 718 S, respectively. But will it matter? BMW die hards may still opt for the ///M2, and those who've always wanted a Boxster may still get that.

Aside from a slightly more luxurious interior, MSRP (and better lease offers), and 6-cyl I can't think of many advantages the Z4 offers. Hopefully that will be enough.
I agree. And why would anyone compare this to boxer? Aren't they different cars/markets?

Anyway I m glad BMW has raised their prices so much across their new models, it should help with resale of the now used cars. As for me, I am carefully looking at the next m4 as my last ditch to switch car brands....
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I agree. And why would anyone compare this to boxer? Aren't they different cars/markets?

Anyway I m glad BMW has raised their prices so much across their new models, it should help with resale of the now used cars. As for me, I am carefully looking at the next m4 as my last ditch to switch car brands....
I think anyone looking for a performance convertible will look at the Boxster and the Z4. They may even cross shop against a Corvette convertible considering similar pricing.
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