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      01-17-2020, 11:19 AM   #2993
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My 80 yo dad was diagnosed with shingles 12/23. I went to see him last night because he can't find his keys, and I had a spare set. He was laying in bed, with a flannel and windbreaker on under the covers, and just a trickle of water (NOT tears) at the corner of his eyes. He told me his watch was dead, I said I'd take it to get the battery changed. It's an Eco-drive, so he just hasn't been moving enough to keep the watch running. As I was leaving, I brushed the jacket on his arm, and he winced in pain, but said it wasn't my touch. He was able to offer me knuckles as I went to walk away.

Confession: I don't want to take it back to him today, don't want to see him that vulnerable
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RIP, Porter. He had a pretty good, long run for a breed that big. So sorry for your loss.
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My border collie just turned 16. I have to pick him up to bring him outside because he can't do the front stairs anymore. Had him since he was only a few months old, but I know sooner rather than later his day will come.
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My 80 yo dad was diagnosed with shingles 12/23. I went to see him last night because he can't find his keys, and I had a spare set. He was laying in bed, with a flannel and windbreaker on under the covers, and just a trickle of water (NOT tears) at the corner of his eyes. He told me his watch was dead, I said I'd take it to get the battery changed. It's an Eco-drive, so he just hasn't been moving enough to keep the watch running. As I was leaving, I brushed the jacket on his arm, and he winced in pain, but said it wasn't my touch. He was able to offer me knuckles as I went to walk away.

Confession: I don't want to take it back to him today, don't want to see him that vulnerable
Go see him. It might be tough for you, but he needs you.
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My 80 yo dad was diagnosed with shingles 12/23. I went to see him last night because he can't find his keys, and I had a spare set. He was laying in bed, with a flannel and windbreaker on under the covers, and just a trickle of water (NOT tears) at the corner of his eyes. He told me his watch was dead, I said I'd take it to get the battery changed. It's an Eco-drive, so he just hasn't been moving enough to keep the watch running. As I was leaving, I brushed the jacket on his arm, and he winced in pain, but said it wasn't my touch. He was able to offer me knuckles as I went to walk away.

Confession: I don't want to take it back to him today, don't want to see him that vulnerable
what did he get for treatment? is he taking neurontin (gabapentin) for post-herpetic neurolgia?
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My 80 yo dad was diagnosed with shingles 12/23. I went to see him last night because he can't find his keys, and I had a spare set. He was laying in bed, with a flannel and windbreaker on under the covers, and just a trickle of water (NOT tears) at the corner of his eyes. He told me his watch was dead, I said I'd take it to get the battery changed. It's an Eco-drive, so he just hasn't been moving enough to keep the watch running. As I was leaving, I brushed the jacket on his arm, and he winced in pain, but said it wasn't my touch. He was able to offer me knuckles as I went to walk away.

Confession: I don't want to take it back to him today, don't want to see him that vulnerable
Sorry to hear that man. Stuff like that breaks my heart. I'm currently going through something similar with my dad and it hurts. I try to be a tough guy in those situations...but it's hard.
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My 80 yo dad was diagnosed with shingles 12/23. I went to see him last night because he can't find his keys, and I had a spare set. He was laying in bed, with a flannel and windbreaker on under the covers, and just a trickle of water (NOT tears) at the corner of his eyes. He told me his watch was dead, I said I'd take it to get the battery changed. It's an Eco-drive, so he just hasn't been moving enough to keep the watch running. As I was leaving, I brushed the jacket on his arm, and he winced in pain, but said it wasn't my touch. He was able to offer me knuckles as I went to walk away.

Confession: I don't want to take it back to him today, don't want to see him that vulnerable
I agree - go see him. I lost my father in 2018. He was only 78, but he was an old 78 and his family were not long livers. He'd has open heart surgery twice and been clean out a few other times and dropped dead once, but was luckily talking to a retired paramedic when he went down and 2 retired doctors were working out 2 rows bad with a defibrillator on the pole right next to them - AND he was across the street from the ER. Amazing luck. Anywhere else and I would have lost him in 2015. I tried to make those years after that count. Woke us up.

When he died (for good) he had just had a knee replacement and I had brought him home to heal up. He started having issues and it turned out he caught pneumonia while in the hospital. For a guy who already had COPD that is bad news. Back to the hospital, kept getting worse, could not keep oxygen in his blood all that - then they wanted to intubate him, which he had always told us he did not want. He was lucid enough he gave them permission (although later he said he did not remember it) and they stuck it in him. The day they intubated him was my birthday. Hardest thing I had ever had to watch. It was horrible. He woke up mad and confused and told my sister to leave the room and then proceeded to tell me to kill him (pull the plug). My sister and I took rotating shifts and stayed with him 24/7 for 6 weeks while he was in there. He got off the ventilator after 10 days, but that was the worst 10 days of my life. He could not talk and he could not eat and he was mad at the world and I felt like he was mad at us. He was on enough medicine that he could not even write well enough to communicate so it was mostly hand gestures and pointing. Horrible

I feel very lucky that even though he never recovered, he got off the ventilator enough to speak to us again and tell us he did not blame us at all and was glad they did it in the end. He really didn't remember much of it. He got to make the decision on when to turn everything off and we all got to say all we wanted to say and he gave us his final wishes and he went quickly after the machines were turned off.

I HATED it but not a day goes by that I am not glad I stayed with him all that time at the end no matter how tough it was to watch your superman go through that.

As stated - he needs you now. Dad thanked us many times to staying with him and putting up with his attitude and that having us there meant the world to him even when he was being a dick.

It's tough now, but you'll be glad you did later. I'd take more days with him even with that damn tube in his mouth right now just to able to speak to him.

I'm sorry brother - we all have to go through it, but it is a horrible time. Soak up what you can.
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RIP, Porter. He had a pretty good, long run for a breed that big. So sorry for your loss.
+1 RIP

My border collie just turned 16. I have to pick him up to bring him outside because he can't do the front stairs anymore. Had him since he was only a few months old, but I know sooner rather than later his day will come.
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RIP, Porter. He had a pretty good, long run for a breed that big. So sorry for your loss.
+1 RIP

My border collie just turned 16. I have to pick him up to bring him outside because he can't do the front stairs anymore. Had him since he was only a few months old, but I know sooner rather than later his day will come.
Our border collie was 16.5 when we had to put him to sleep. I adopted him at 7 weeks old from the animal shelter. He was diagnosed with hip dysplasia at an early age. He had a lot of trouble getting up the last year. Once we picked him up, he rolled. I gave him every injection possible and he also had acupuncture for about a year. It got to the point where he couldn't stand on his own and we had to put him down. Such an emotionally wrecking day. I still miss him so much. Best. Damn. Dog. Ever.
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Our border collie was 16.5 when we had to put him to sleep. I adopted him at 7 weeks old from the animal shelter. He was diagnosed with hip dysplasia at an early age. He had a lot of trouble getting up the last year. Once we picked him up, he rolled. I gave him every injection possible and he also had acupuncture for about a year. It got to the point where he couldn't stand on his own and we had to put him down. Such an emotionally wrecking day. I still miss him so much. Best. Damn. Dog. Ever.
Looks JUST like mine!
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My 80 yo dad was diagnosed with shingles 12/23. I went to see him last night because he can't find his keys, and I had a spare set. He was laying in bed, with a flannel and windbreaker on under the covers, and just a trickle of water (NOT tears) at the corner of his eyes. He told me his watch was dead, I said I'd take it to get the battery changed. It's an Eco-drive, so he just hasn't been moving enough to keep the watch running. As I was leaving, I brushed the jacket on his arm, and he winced in pain, but said it wasn't my touch. He was able to offer me knuckles as I went to walk away.

Confession: I don't want to take it back to him today, don't want to see him that vulnerable
what did he get for treatment? is he taking neurontin (gabapentin) for post-herpetic neurolgia?
He did have gabe when left hospital. Was all confused when saw Dr yesterday and only asked for more pain meds. Going back early next week

Tonight he's up at the table and wise-cracking TV personalities
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Go see him. It might be tough for you, but he needs you.
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I lost my dad in July of 2018, after a long slow decline. It's hard to watch, but your attention and care will make a big difference for him.
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Googled it, interesting. I just don't wear cologne though, so I'm not a buyer at that price. Might go smell it in the Bay if they have a tester bottle. I admit you have me curious.
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So my daughter has a cat like Run Silent . She's had her for a few years.

Daughter got married last year, and they decided to get a new kitten (playmate) and it would be their first pet together as a couple.

They went through all the vet visits, and everything came back all clear. Fast forward 6-7 months and she takes the new cat to her vet because his attitude has changed. Tests come back as Feline Leukemia. Apparently it can lay dormant and show up later.

They have a transfusion done, get bone marrow testing, and the specialist tells them that it's mainly scarring so there is promise.

She gets called today after another visit to find out that his RBC is dropping again and they are going in for another transfusion. If this doesn't take along with the steroids, they will have no choice but to let him go.

She asked me if we could babysit her other cat for the weekend if it comes to that so that they could spend as much time with him before the deed.

She was so upset and it just killed me. I hate it for the little guy as I have interacted with him and he's a cute little thing. Just got dealt a bad hand.

My daughter is my life and I have always been able to fix almost any issue she's ever had. This time I'm powerless....... and it sucks I can't do anything.

Just had to get it off my chest.
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So my daughter has a cat like Run Silent . She's had her for a few years.

Daughter got married last year, and they decided to get a new kitten (playmate) and it would be their first pet together as a couple.

They went through all the vet visits, and everything came back all clear. Fast forward 6-7 months and she takes the new cat to her vet because his attitude has changed. Tests come back as Feline Leukemia. Apparently it can lay dormant and show up later.

They have a transfusion done, get bone marrow testing, and the specialist tells them that it's mainly scarring so there is promise.

She gets called today after another visit to find out that his RBC is dropping again and they are going in for another transfusion. If this doesn't take along with the steroids, they will have no choice but to let him go.

She asked me if we could babysit her other cat for the weekend if it comes to that so that they could spend as much time with him before the deed.

She was so upset and it just killed me. I hate it for the little guy as I have interacted with him and he's a cute little thing. Just got dealt a bad hand.

My daughter is my life and I have always been able to fix almost any issue she's ever had. This time I'm powerless....... and it sucks I can't do anything.

Just had to get it off my chest.

Shame man. Unfortunately, FeLV is a real problem and is frequently fatal.

Curious - there is a FeLV vaccine that is quite cheap and can prevent this issue. I wonder why they didn't get it for the cat?
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So my daughter has a cat like Run Silent . She's had her for a few years.

Daughter got married last year, and they decided to get a new kitten (playmate) and it would be their first pet together as a couple.

They went through all the vet visits, and everything came back all clear. Fast forward 6-7 months and she takes the new cat to her vet because his attitude has changed. Tests come back as Feline Leukemia. Apparently it can lay dormant and show up later.

They have a transfusion done, get bone marrow testing, and the specialist tells them that it's mainly scarring so there is promise.

She gets called today after another visit to find out that his RBC is dropping again and they are going in for another transfusion. If this doesn't take along with the steroids, they will have no choice but to let him go.

She asked me if we could babysit her other cat for the weekend if it comes to that so that they could spend as much time with him before the deed.

She was so upset and it just killed me. I hate it for the little guy as I have interacted with him and he's a cute little thing. Just got dealt a bad hand.

My daughter is my life and I have always been able to fix almost any issue she's ever had. This time I'm powerless....... and it sucks I can't do anything.

Just had to get it off my chest.
Sorry to hear man. Non-cat related but I'm dealing with a similar situation of sorts. The eldest off-spring is in a toxic relationship with this girl that he is head over heels in love with. She continues to toy with him and he continues to allow her to do it. It's now affecting him in ways that are changing his personality. There is nothing more hopeless than watching your child be upset all while knowing there is absolutely nothing you can do about it; other than be there for them when the shit hits the fan.
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Shame man. Unfortunately, FeLV is a real problem and is frequently fatal.

Curious - there is a FeLV vaccine that is quite cheap and can prevent this issue. I wonder why they didn't get it for the cat?
Not sure. I was thinking that they had him vaccinated when they took him in for the initial first visit. He was a little older when they got him...maybe it was a timing issue?

But she picked him up and went straight to the vet before bringing him home as she didn't want anything communicable getting to her Norwegian. Then she waited on having him fixed as the vet said that doing it to early could lead to issues later on in life.

She did contact the people she got him from and they contacted the various owners, and it seems the whole litter came back positive.

I can only imagine the other people who got one and if it was for a younger child. That will be devastating.
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Sorry to hear man. Non-cat related but I'm dealing with a similar situation of sorts. The eldest off-spring is in a toxic relationship with this girl that he is head over heels in love with. She continues to toy with him and he continues to allow her to do it. It's now affecting him in ways that is changing his personality. There is nothing more hopeless than watching your child be upset all while knowing there is absolutely nothing you can do about it; other than be there for them when the shit hits the fan.
Sorry to hear man. I got lucky and my daughter met her Husband in 8th grade. It started off as boyfriend and girlfriend....I remember when they had their official first date.

They were meant for each other, and he could not be a better son-in-law. Plus he genuinely had a healthy dose of being afraid of me for some reason for the first few years.
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Plus he genuinely had a healthy dose of being afraid of me for some reason for the first few years.
Well, maybe...and I'm just spitballing here...maybe if you hadn't pulled something like the below, he may not have had the same (admittedly healthy) fear that he did...
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