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      09-17-2018, 04:17 PM   #45
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I imagine that's going to be at least a 450 hp car...add in the beefed suspension and brakes and I may be buying my first Toyota!
I doubt it'll be any different power-wise than the Z4. This is Toyota we're talking about.
Toyota has already said it will have more power. The Supra is going to be the new z4m.
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And they still won't produce an actual z4m
Why produce full m cars when you can just put m badges on everything lol
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I imagine that's going to be at least a 450 hp car...add in the beefed suspension and brakes and I may be buying my first Toyota!
I doubt it'll be any different power-wise than the Z4. This is Toyota we're talking about.
Toyota has already said it will have more power. The Supra is going to be the new z4m.
My daily is a brz. Family car is the Lexus IS. Basically both Toyota products. Great driving cars, and terrible interiors. Hope that the supra gets the interior right to match the price tag.
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Toyota has already said it will have more power. The Supra is going to be the new z4m.
We'll see. If so it'll just be a tuning choice that Z4 owners could match/beat with a JB4.

Considering what Toyota has done with the GT86 and that they didn't bother to make a manual version I think it'll be an overstyled Z4 Coupe.
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Toyota has already said it will have more power. The Supra is going to be the new z4m.
Do you recall where you read this?

Just curious because early information (that I thought I read) was the opposite. I can no longer find my source for that information, though. I had read that Toyota would be using BMW powertrains in the Supra but that they would be slightly less tuned so that the Z4 remained the faster of the 2 cars.

Like I said, though, I can't find this information anymore.
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Toyota has already said it will have more power. The Supra is going to be the new z4m.
This video seems to indicate the opposite. While the reviewer loves many of the Toyota changes to the car, 225kw only translates to roughly 300hp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6K0Zzt-shk
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Sport Auto weighed the car as well: 1588 kgs, full tank without the driver. Oh, 357 PS.

OG M2 weighed less when they supertested it, horspower was 394 PS I think
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That was not a stock civic type R
Maybe not, but the stock civic type R was also tested by autoexpress on anglesey track and found faster than the m4 for example. Difference was small though; 0,2sec, which would translate to about 2sec on nordschleife times.
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Maybe not, but the stock civic type R was also tested by autoexpress on anglesey track and found faster than the m4 for example. Difference was small though; 0,2sec, which would translate to about 2sec on nordschleife times.
The factory Type R time was BS, rear seats/infotainment removed and R-compound tires. Who knows what else they weren't telling.

Reality...an actual stock showroom car.

SportAuto(Nurburgring):
Type R - 8:05
M4 - 7:52

MotorTrend(Laguna Seca)-
Type R - 1:44.22
BMW M4 - 1:39.69
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Reality...an actual stock showroom car.

SportAuto(Nurburgring):
Type R - 8:05
M4 - 7:52
Yes that type R factory time is not really credible.
But the time you list for the Type R is incorrect: SportAuto tested the type R for 8:01. And that time might be a bit slow as they've also tested the M2 at 8:01, so an equal time.

Of course the longer/straighter/faster the track gets the more an m4 or m2 gets into its advantage over a civic because the civic is down 60hp on the m2 and 120hp on the m4. So it performs better on tracks with narrow slow corners where it can gain time with the better handling/braking.
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For track purpose, an M2 C would be a better choice.
Curious about the timing set with 374/ 382 PS engine output
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