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      01-12-2020, 07:35 PM   #23
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So we go from the Supras, Celica All-Tracs, and MR2 Turbos of the 90s to this POS.

Progress.....
How is it a POS? Looks to be extremely competent and has everything you'd want in a hot hatch.
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I would daily the hell out of that thing.
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So we go from the Supras, Celica All-Tracs, and MR2 Turbos of the 90s to this POS.

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How is it a POS? Looks to be extremely competent and has everything you'd want in a hot hatch.
Exactly.

Some people are totally ignorant and just buy into marketing...others know what constitutes a performance car.

This is a homologation special; some of the best street cars ever were homologation and hot hatches are some of the most fun cars around.
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Would totally buy one of these. Sad to hear it's not coming here (but not surprised).
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I love the chassis and the stats. Impressive numbers too for a 3 pot, and good light weight. It would tear up a dirt or snow road for sure. I just don't like the body on it. Front end is ok, rear reminds me of a Renault Twingo which for me is a deal breaker.
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Exactly.

Some people are totally ignorant and just buy into marketing....
That's why I bought an M4, because the reviews on it were just soooooo good.
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This is a super cool little car! I would love one!
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i would rock that as a daily beater, and you know it would be dead reliable.
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I think lower HP cars are way more fun on the streets.

When I give some throttle in my car I'm already at way illegal speeds before I know it.

Although... 250+ hp is still a lot. I'd say something with low 200's would be fun as hell. Or even high 100's and extremely light weight.
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I think lower HP cars are way more fun on the streets.

When I give some throttle in my car I'm already at way illegal speeds before I know it.

Although... 250+ hp is still a lot. I'd say something with low 200's would be fun as hell. Or even high 100's and extremely light weight.
Bingo. Top of 2nd gear is more than most speed limits here, and 3rd is going to jail speeds. I picked up an NA Miata recently, amazing fun out of an extremely slow car. Such a hoot to drive.
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I think lower HP cars are way more fun on the streets.

When I give some throttle in my car I'm already at way illegal speeds before I know it.

Although... 250+ hp is still a lot. I'd say something with low 200's would be fun as hell. Or even high 100's and extremely light weight.
Bingo. Top of 2nd gear is more than most speed limits here, and 3rd is going to jail speeds. I picked up an NA Miata recently, amazing fun out of an extremely slow car. Such a hoot to drive.
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I think lower HP cars are way more fun on the streets.

When I give some throttle in my car I'm already at way illegal speeds before I know it.

Although... 250+ hp is still a lot. I'd say something with low 200's would be fun as hell. Or even high 100's and extremely light weight.
Bingo. Top of 2nd gear is more than most speed limits here, and 3rd is going to jail speeds. I picked up an NA Miata recently, amazing fun out of an extremely slow car. Such a hoot to drive.
This!

Always.

The peak of motoring is to understand that speed is not what thrills it's HOW a car gets to speed and how it deals with speed and changes of speed.
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I put a deposit on one yesterday!
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I put a deposit on one yesterday!
Lucky!!!! Post pics when you get it!
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Lucky!!!! Post pics when you get it!
Will do!

Will be a ways off, right now they're only taking deposits to secure build slots. Won't be till April may that I can spec the car, delivery not expected till August/September.

If the UK doesn't get the circuit/track pack with LSD front and rear, I'll probably cancel and wait for them to release that version.
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Looks awesome, similar to that of a Fiesta ST, would love to drive one!
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Video: Walk around of the craziest hot hatch..Toyota Yaris GR

I was out at Tokyo Auto Salon earlier this month and there was one car that was surrounded with people more than any other. So much so that I had to sneak in early one day before the show started so I could get some quick video and pictures of it.

Cliff notes: 1.6 3 cylinder turbo 258 BHP/360nm torque, manual gearbox, switchable AWD 60:40, 50:50, 30:70, 1 Torsen LSD per axle, Carbon Polymer Body Panels and 1280kg's.

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I'm so bummed we don't get the GR-4 stateside.

I had a celica very similar to the white one in the background as my first car, though I think they came with a slightly different body kit and wheels in the U.S.
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Honestly? It's an almost 270hp AWD sub-compact car. And a hatch at that. That's amazing.

I can't think of any other brand that does this. Not Subaru, not Honda, no one. The only thing close is the 500 Abarth.

Aesthetically, I would prefer the Hyundai N line look which is way more subtle, but this is an order of magnitude better than the Civic type-R. And the interior is just simple, not transformers, which is great.

I get that this is a 'toy' and competes with something like a Miata, so no practicality is expencted, but if they made it in 4 doors that would be awesome since then it becomes more realistic to use daily as you can fold down the rears and get an actual trunk.

This was a $15k car. To the manufacturer it has less than a couple hundred bucks in parts bolted on, which means naturally it will cost over double the base model which I find insulting.

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