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      03-13-2020, 09:35 AM   #1
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After SARS, Covid 19, how do you prevent China from infecting the world again?

Havent the world learned anything from the 2002 SARS virus that also started in China?
It's hard to believe that people are still eating half cooked bats, Pangolins etc.

Iran, Italy are devastated, economies are collapsing. 9/11 changed the way we travel, The world needs to come up with a way to prevent this from happening again in the future!
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I made a mention of this in the US thread about COVID-19.

After the dust settles, the world needs to explore some punitive actions against the Chinese government. They are the reason why this has gotten this far out of hand. Their behavior isn't going to change until they get slapped hard.

But I doubt this would ever happen.
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But I doubt this would ever happen.
Correct. Any punishment or effort to obtain justice will be labeled as racist and xenophobic by Progressives, for whom all countries and all people are exactly equal - even ones where throwing a homosexual off a roof is OK - and truth is a social construct.
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Correct. It'll be labeled as racist and xenophobic by Progressives, for whom all countries and all people are exactly equal - even ones where throwing a homosexual off a roof is OK - and truth is a social construct.
I personally feel the inaction goes beyond racism or xenophobia. The world has handled China with appeasement and just empty harsh language. China has been a kid that has been testing boundaries and pushing them. The world has let China move the bar so far that it's pretty much too late to do anything other than get into a major conflict now which will create more pain for everyone.
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Remove them from WTO
Slap all exports from china with a tariff base on the mortality rate x10
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The West needs to decouple from China as much as possible. Move manufacturing to India, Vietnam, etc until there is regime change there. Their current government is absolute scum and cannot be trusted ie. Uyghur concentration camps, political prisoners, organ harvesting, technology/IP theft and on and on and on. And to top it off Chinese officials are now trying to shift blame for the coronavirus onto the US. Complete scum.

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Remove them from WTO
Slap all exports from china with a tariff base on the mortality rate x10
^This.

I would go one step further and also adjust the tariff on the economic damage they caused.
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I personally feel the inaction goes beyond racism or xenophobia. The world has handled China with appeasement and just empty harsh language. China has been a kid that has been testing boundaries and pushing them. The world has let China move the bar so far that it's pretty much too late to do anything other than get into a major conflict now which will create more pain for everyone.
I edited my post to be more clear. I wasn't suggesting that inaction was racist/xenophobic.

I agree, China has gotten away with a lot of bullshit. Wholesale, widespread theft of intellectual property; software piracy is just another day at the office in China. Nothing's been done because the West likes lots of cheap shit that's made in China, so they don't want to confront them or stop having their doo-dads manufactured there. China's also a large and expanding market for luxury goods from the West, like Bimmers.
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Swine flu started in Mexico, should they be hit with penalties as well?
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Swine flu started in Mexico, should they be hit with penalties as well?
I don't remember the Mexican government proactively trying to silence anyone reporting any information about Swine Flu nor Heismanning any country looking to provide help or collaboration.
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China hints at denying Americans life-saving coronavirus drugs
Dumbest Li has done in his life. I imagine Trump has already had a chat with the asshat. China fcked themselves bigtime.
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China isn't the only place that a pandemic can come out of and it certainly won't be the last. You would need an international treaty after this agreeing to penalties to countries that criminally cover up the start of one.

I think it would be much more helpful to get some sort of international treaty on how to handle pandemics going forward in regards to travel restrictions/economics etc. The US especially needs a well thought out national plan to deal with the future pandemics in all areas of daily life.

A lot of people are saying this is a China problem, which was part of the problem with Trump calling it a foreign virus. Is he correct, this time yes, but what does it matter as they can start in many different areas of the globe. This is a global human race problem not specific to any one country.
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China isn't the only place that a pandemic can come out of and it certainly won't be the last. You would need an international treaty after this agreeing to penalties to countries that criminally cover up the start of one.

I think it would be much more helpful to get some sort of international treaty on how to handle pandemics going forward in regards to travel restrictions/economics etc. The US especially needs a well thought out national plan to deal with the future pandemics in all areas of daily life.

A lot of people are saying this is a China problem, which was part of the problem with Trump calling it a foreign virus. Is he correct, this time yes, but what does it matter as they can start in many different areas of the globe. This is a global human race problem not specific to any one country.
I agree with the totality of your post. But at least for me, I'm all over China as having primary fault with what the world is experiencing as they instituted actions to cover up the issues with this disease. This is inline with their historical actions.

But as you've said, I hope this is a wake up call to have some sort of formal treaty in place to handle the next outbreak better along with stiff punitive penalties for those that don't comply.
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A lot of people are saying this is a China problem,
Its the worlds problem. Needing to put up with a corrupt, closed dictatorship. I think the U.S. under trrup and a lot of other "free" companies will learn a valuable lesson. China will pay an extraordinary price but will "learn" nothing.
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I agree with the totality of your post. But at least for me, I'm all over China as having primary fault with what the world is experiencing as they instituted actions to cover up the issues with this disease. This is inline with their historical actions.

But as you've said, I hope this is a wake up call to have some sort of formal treaty in place to handle the next outbreak better along with stiff punitive penalties for those that don't comply.
Fully agreed, China has some 'splainen to do as they say. That is why Russia and Iran are actively pushing conspiracy theories that the US is to blame for various reasons. So with the current powers that be involved, don't have a whole lot of hope that anything like I was talking about will happen anytime soon.
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Its the worlds problem. Needing to put up with a corrupt, closed dictatorship. I think the U.S. under trrup and a lot of other "free" companies will learn a valuable lesson. China will pay an extraordinary price but will "learn" nothing.
The current one came from China, pandemics can originate from anywhere. Hence why I said what I said. The entire human race is vulnerable to them obviously and globalism will resume after this one. So it would be wise to try and figure out some well thought plans/preparations internationally/nationally no?
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The West needs to decouple from China as much as possible. Move manufacturing to India, Vietnam, etc until there is regime change there. Their current government is absolute scum and cannot be trusted ie. Uyghur concentration camps, political prisoners, organ harvesting, technology/IP theft and on and on and on. And to top it off Chinese officials are now trying to shift blame for the coronavirus onto the US. Complete scum.

This

We need to decouple from China, send our jobs to Vietnam, India, Mexico, better yet keep our manufacturing right here.
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Bring manufacturing back to the US to start. A tax break for US companies that manufacture within the US. A HUGE tax increase for companies that still want to outsource overseas. This will help address the economy aspect at least.
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So YOU have the magic wand...
Remove regulation on private industry and make funds more easily avaliable to those private companies

Much harsher stricter taxes and regulation for public companies.
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So YOU have the magic wand...
No and I know easier said than done...but manufacturing how it currently is should not have gotten to this point. To many big companies out source to save money but apparently didnt/dont care about the big picture.
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Is he correct, this time yes, but what does it matter as they can start in many different areas of the globe. This is a global human race problem not specific to any one country.
But it's most likely to start in a country with:
1) Death/concentration camps
2) Open animal markets where you can eat, fuck, and buy anything
3) Questionable food/health practices
4) Basically no human rights
5) Massive poverty
6) Bad Pollution
7) A Government that is inherently EVIL, completely controls the narrative/all news. Think how much they have covered up. We only know the tip of the shit encrusted iceberg.
8) Practice organ harvesting and organ vacation/tourism


If the T-Virus zombie apocalypse starts, it's going to be in some shit hole in China.

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