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      11-26-2023, 01:00 PM   #1
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Another Case of Supra Getting Press Instead of Z4

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...d%20Last%2030D

Supra gets linked to other high performance vehicles in a high performance test article instead of Z4. Seems like BMW missed an opportunity. They’re actively supporting Unicorn status. 🤷‍♂️
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https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...d%20Last%2030D

Supra gets linked to other high performance vehicles in a high performance test article instead of Z4. Seems like BMW missed an opportunity. They’re actively supporting Unicorn status. 🤷‍♂️
This is my opinion on why the Z4 is consistently MIA in comparison tests.

Z4 isn’t an M car, Toyota Supra is the “better” track weapon and Toyota has no other dedicated sports car capable of this level of performance.

For the Supra/Z4 platform as a whole, it makes sense to track test the Supra opposed to the Z4 if best possible numbers are concerned.

BMW will throw its M cars into serious competition when needed and rightfully so.

Don’t think we will see the Z4 in comparison tests unless it’s up against other convertibles. With the shrinking 2 seater vert market drying up, those comparisons are few and far between.
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Agree that for "performance comparisons", the default is to use the coupé instead of the convertible. If you look at, for example, the Porsches, all of them are non-vert variants.

Still, odd the car selection didn't have something like an M3/M4/M5 in there, those cars would do quite well in this test.
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Agree that for "performance comparisons", the default is to use the coupé instead of the convertible. If you look at, for example, the Porsches, all of them are non-vert variants.

Still, odd the car selection didn't have something like an M3/M4/M5 in there, those cars would do quite well in this test.
Exactly, there was not a single ragtop in the cars tested which could be a factor in why the Z4 was not included.
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Supra and Z4 are two completely distinct audiences IMO. Z4 is likely to be tested and reviewed along side the Audi TT, Porsche 718 Boxster, Mercedes SL, Jaguar F-Type, and Lotus Emira.
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Supra and Z4 are two completely distinct audiences IMO. Z4 is likely to be tested and reviewed along side the Audi TT, Porsche 718 Boxster, Mercedes SL, Jaguar F-Type, and Lotus Emira.
You can even add a Miata to that list.
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You can even add a Miata to that list.
Yeah for sure, and probably even the Fiat roadster.
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Yeah for sure, and probably even the Fiat roadster.
Shame they don't make it anymore...
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Shame they don't make it anymore...
I agree. I much preferred the looks of the Fiata over the Miata but I didn't care at all for the powertrain Fiat chose.
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Shame they don't make it anymore...
Agreed, it's good looking and a great overall contender for roadster.
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I agree. I much preferred the looks of the Fiata over the Miata but I didn't care at all for the powertrain Fiat chose.
I didn't find it bad at all, but it definitely could have been better - the 1.8L turbo they put in the rally car would have been a much better choice, of course, but it had to be comparable to the Miata in terms of power.

I was getting 25mpg out of the Fiat on my 30 minute morning commute: the same as I get with the Z4! In fact, driving it very easy in the Z4 can get more than I ever could in the Fiat.
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