[stlcdr]

From what I've seen on the forum, here, even though it's a 'young' car, there have been pretty much zero issues (a few annoying exceptions, but appear to be honestly rectified). The engine/gearbox mechanicals seem solid.

Unlike other forums showing a string of significant issues with essentially brand new vehicles (here's looking at you, Ford Expedition!)

As others have said, warranties are a gambling game/scam/etc. My beef is the mental gymnastics and time needed to claim against them.

I 'self insure'/eyes wide open. This is an expensive car with expensive parts. Be prepared to shell out for something that breaks (having said that, the factory warranty seems pretty good, and maybe that 'upgrade' might be calling my name, by then!)

[Horseman]

You really can't compare American cars with German or Japanese cars.... there's a huge quality difference. I can't stand American cars (as an American)

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by Horseman

You really can't compare American cars with German or Japanese cars.... there's a huge quality difference. I can't stand American cars (as an American)

You can’t equate German cars with Japanese cars … . The thing about American cars is they break more often but are cheaper than German cars to fix. We’ve had numerous problems with Audi and Mercedes, but no problems with BMW.

[Horseman]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

You can’t equate German cars with Japanese cars … . The thing about American cars is they break more often but are cheaper than German cars to fix. We’ve had numerous problems with Audi and Mercedes, but no problems with BMW.

I'm not really equating Japanese to Germany cars.

Japanese cars are meant for longevity and reliability.

German cars luxury, quality of materials and performance.

American cars... don't really have any redeeming qualities (in general)

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by Horseman

I'm not really equating Japanese to Germany cars.

Japanese cars are meant for longevity and reliability.

German cars luxury, quality of materials and performance.

American cars... don't really have any redeeming qualities (in general)

And then came tesla to save them! Bwahahahahah.

[Horseman]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

And then came tesla to save them! Bwahahahahah.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ight lol ugly frog shaped catastrophes

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by Horseman

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ight lol ugly frog shaped catastrophes

Frog shaped

[stlcdr]

GMC beats BMW, on the whole, for reliability (dependability), however...warranty prices seem similar across the board, though.

It's a myth that European cars are more reliable than US or Japanese or whatever; just like it's a myth that Apple Mac is more reliable than a PC. Such general statements are simply a myth.

[ZMcruiser]

The only extended warranty I ever bought was for my 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited. It was the year they were offering the 8-speed ZF transmission and the air suspension. My thought was if something could go wrong it would be one of those two items. Nothing went wrong with either, and still hasn't. Get this, at the end of the warranty period Jeep sent me a check refunding the cost of the warranty?

[rikwynnpa]

this car is really complex plus it has a folding convertible mechanism that will cost thousands to fix if it breaks. When my '19 3.0 was close to the warranty end I bought the BMW extended plan from a dealer in CA at a decent discount. I would NEVER drive a BMW of any kind without a warranty.

Originally Posted by Christos

I bought my 2019 sDrive30i Z4 last year, the car had 5000 miles and I put on another 6000.

The warranty is over in 2 days. what are your thoughts/opnions on getting an extended warranty for a 2019 z4 with 11,000 miles?

Thanks

[rikwynnpa]

How many X5s do you see on the road from the first generation? How many M Class Benz? Almost none.

How many 15 year old Silverados, F150s, Impalas and Taurus do you still see on the road? Plenty. The big 3 build durable vehicles in many cases (not all). Thats what the American OEMs are known for.

German cars are built to survive their warranty. After that they are a disaster waiting to happen.

Originally Posted by Horseman

I'm not really equating Japanese to Germany cars.

Japanese cars are meant for longevity and reliability.

German cars luxury, quality of materials and performance.

American cars... don't really have any redeeming qualities (in general)

[StanDiego]

Originally Posted by rikwynnpa

German cars are built to survive their warranty. After that they are a disaster waiting to happen.

I don't agree with that at all. However, I do believe exorbitant repair costs send German cars in the US to the junkyard prematurely more frequently than US or Japanese cars, not because they fail more frequently but because the cost to repair is more frequently greater than their value.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by rikwynnpa

How many X5s do you see on the road from the first generation? How many M Class Benz? Almost none.

How many 15 year old Silverados, F150s, Impalas and Taurus do you still see on the road? Plenty. The big 3 build durable vehicles in many cases (not all). Thats what the American OEMs are known for.

German cars are built to survive their warranty. After that they are a disaster waiting to happen.

I actually agree with this.

[goat30i]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

I actually agree with this.

Poppycock. My nearly $6k AC compressor job disagrees. (Sarcasm). Love the car, but I will give the extended warranty a very hard look when I refresh. Have never considered the extra coverage on other brands, but dang, the parts and labor costs on the BMW are inline with friends’ warnings to sell before factory warranty runs out.

[GerryC]

Originally Posted by rikwynnpa

How many X5s do you see on the road from the first generation? How many M Class Benz? Almost none.

How many were there to begin with? A friend put 230k miles on his 2000 X5 in 20 years before trading it. He still has a 2005 SLK350 with over 325k miles. I still see lots of E36 and E46 BMWs around town and they're all over 15 years old.

Originally Posted by rikwynnpa

How many 15 year old Silverados, F150s, Impalas and Taurus do you still see on the road? Plenty. The big 3 build durable vehicles in many cases (not all). Thats what the American OEMs are known for.

You listed some of the biggest sellers ever. Considering there was an order of magnitude more F-150s built than X5s, there would be more left on the road even if their survival rate was a fraction of BMW's.

Originally Posted by rikwynnpa

German cars are built to survive their warranty. After that they are a disaster waiting to happen.

In my experience BMWs will outlast even the extended warranties without a major issue. When you get over 100k miles you'll start to have issues, but the biggest one I had was the water pump on my E60 at 120k miles. I put 175k miles on it before I traded it. I've had 3 others go over 100k miles without any major issues.

[Argo]

Originally Posted by rikwynnpa

How many X5s do you see on the road from the first generation? How many M Class Benz? Almost none.

How many 15 year old Silverados, F150s, Impalas and Taurus do you still see on the road? Plenty. The big 3 build durable vehicles in many cases (not all). Thats what the American OEMs are known for.

Those cars outsold the X5 and M class by at least a factor of 10 (likely far more). Of course you're going to see more of them around.

[Balr14]

I estimate my Z4 will have less than 28k miles on it when I sell it in about 5 years. I can't justify the cost of an extended warranty for such limited miles.

[Kwajtrader]

Originally Posted by Horseman

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ight lol ugly frog shaped catastrophes

Wow…

[rikwynnpa]

People dont even want to buy a 6 yr old S Class without a warranty so their resale values are in the toilet. The numbers tell the story.

Originally Posted by GerryC

How many were there to begin with? A friend put 230k miles on his 2000 X5 in 20 years before trading it. He still has a 2005 SLK350 with over 325k miles. I still see lots of E36 and E46 BMWs around town and they're all over 15 years old.



You listed some of the biggest sellers ever. Considering there was an order of magnitude more F-150s built than X5s, there would be more left on the road even if their survival rate was a fraction of BMW's.



In my experience BMWs will outlast even the extended warranties without a major issue. When you get over 100k miles you'll start to have issues, but the biggest one I had was the water pump on my E60 at 120k miles. I put 175k miles on it before I traded it. I've had 3 others go over 100k miles without any major issues.

[Balr14]

The biggest issue I always had with used German cars, is the potential for some repairs to be major. For example, Mercedes ABC, Audi R8 air conditioning compressor and suspension, Porsche bore scoring and limit sensor in the PDK, BMW V8 engine, etc. While the frequency isn't high, the expense can be. These are $15k to $40k repairs. The B58 engine is supposed to be the best engine BMW has ever made and the ZF 8 speed has a history of being an outstanding transmission. So, two biggest areas of concern eliminated, for me.

I always get crap about "I shouldn't buy this kind of car if I can't afford to fix it". But, I can afford to fix it, I just feel like a total fool for buying something that has that kind of potential cost.

So, I have looked at extended warranties many times, but just never justified the cost... same rationale as above.