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      09-12-2019, 11:29 AM   #1
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It will be interesting to see Trumps reaction. Reportedly, he doesn't even like spying on hostile states.
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Will it be anti-Semitic to criticize Israel over this move?
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It will be interesting to see Trumps reaction. Reportedly, he doesn't even like spying on hostile states.
I’m betting he will give them a pass, just like any of his predecessors would

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Will it be anti-Semitic to criticize Israel over this move?
In Florida, yes. In reality, not unless you’re a moron.
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In Florida, yes. In reality, not unless you’re a moron.
LOL. 100% correct sir.
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Maybe we can finally reinvest the $6 billion a year we give them back into the United States.


“These allegations are absolute nonsense. Israel doesn’t conduct espionage operations in the United States, period," Elad Strohmayer told Politico

Yeah because he would admit it if they did.. AND OF COURSE THEY DO!
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Lol!

We spy on all of our allies and they spy on us. We have mutual as well as one-way back channels into their operations and they have them into many of ours. These channels have prevented misunderstandings as well as actual wars.

This happens on every day that ends in Y and will be so in perpetuity.

Don't be naive.
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It’s always entertaining to see the support for isreal divide is almost always generational.

Zionistic dispensationalism has done a number on this country.
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It’s always entertaining to see the support for isreal divide is almost always generational.

Zionistic dispensationalism has done a number on this country.
Not really. I just remember this: They are God's people. Every power who has done crap to them and/or not supported them has ended up in the dustbin of history. Just dustbin'd in the last hundred years, the 1000 Year Reich and the USSR.

There is no interest in peace by the vast majority of Muslim states in that area. They could have had it when Yasser Arafat was alive but absolutely and categorically refused it.

Next stop: Dustbin of history.
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And when fine upstanding pillars of the community like Jeffrey Epstein are working with (or for) Israeli intelligence to infiltrate the U.S. tech sector it's all cool haha

https://www.mintpressnews.com/cia-is...htmare/261692/
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Not really. I just remember this: They are God's people. Every power who has done crap to them and/or not supported them has ended up in the dustbin of history. Just dustbin'd in the last hundred years, the 1000 Year Reich and the USSR.

There is no interest in peace by the vast majority of Muslim states in that area. They could have had it when Yasser Arafat was alive but absolutely and categorically refused it.

Next stop: Dustbin of history.
I’ve seen the “God’s chosen people” thrown around a lot, I just can’t figure out where y’all are getting it from. A lot of people misunderstand the commitment with Abraham in genesis to state that if you support isreal you are blessed and if you don’t you are cursed but the follow up in John 8 pretty much slaps that idea down:

39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.

“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would[c] do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”

“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Also these:

Romans 2:28
Acts 7:43
Revelation 2:9 and 3:9
John 14:6

And given what we now know regarding the current population of Isreal and their khazar descendants who adopted Judaism in 740AD (not the Israelites of antiquity), I just don’t understand how anyone could come to that conclusion that they are “God’s chosen”.

As far as the Islamic states around them, they can go fuck themselves for all I care.
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I’ve seen the “God’s chosen people” thrown around a lot, I just can’t figure out where y’all are getting it from. A lot of people misunderstand the commitment with Abraham in genesis to state that if you support isreal you are blessed and if you don’t you are cursed but the follow up in John 8 pretty much slaps that idea down:

39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.

“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would[c] do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”

“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Also these:

Romans 2:28
Acts 7:43
Revelation 2:9 and 3:9
John 14:6

And given what we now know regarding the current population of Isreal and their khazar descendants who adopted Judaism in 740AD (not the Israelites of antiquity), I just don’t understand how anyone could come to that conclusion that they are “God’s chosen”.

As far as the Islamic states around them, they can go fuck themselves for all I care.
As with Pharaoh, there are many instances of God hardening the hearts of men to achieve a purpose. Could this have been one? We don't know. I only look at history.

Those that oppose Israel and her people are soon dealt with as can be seen in recent or not-so-recent history.

I don't want to get into a theological discussion. I fully support Israel and her people and I won't stop doing so. I worked closely with them on an anti-terror project for a year and a half in grad school and I am extremely sympathetic to their plight.

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As with Pharaoh, there are many instances of God hardening the hearts of men to achieve a purpose. Could this have been one? We don't know. I only look at history.

Those that oppose Israel and her people are soon dealt with as can be seen in recent or not-so-recent history.

I don't want to get into a theological discussion. I fully support Israel and her people and I won't stop doing so. I worked closely with them on an anti-terror project for a year and a half in grad school and I am extremely sympathetic to their plight.

Cheers-mk
Feel free to support them, I’m just going from The Word and I can’t find anything that justifies blind allegiance to a piece of land regardless of who inhabits it.

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