01-13-2021, 01:08 PM | #23 |
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Sorry everyone, I don't trust the numbers from Canada. Every site seems to be reporting different numbers.
https://carfigures.com/canada-market...ar-sales-table 2019- 210 2020- 182 https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/bmw-z4-sales-figures/ 2019- 1,620 2020- 1,345 |
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01-13-2021, 01:10 PM | #24 |
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Yeah, thats what it looks like.
Very different data depending on the source.
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I tired looking at Toyota & BMW CA press release and couldn't find much.
Even the BMW USA press release is slight off from the goodcarbadcar but its only like by 100 units, so that's not too big of a deal IMO. Edited: Someone just shared this link, but maybe the differences is because BMW inflated their sale numbers? https://www.motortrend.com/news/bmw-...sales-numbers/ Last edited by supra93; 01-13-2021 at 02:14 PM.. |
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Still love my Bimmers. Our other daily is a 17 440i. Supra is a fine automobile. The one thing I really appreciated in buying the Supra (as a long-time BMW buyer) was the lack of nickel-and-diming on accessories. The 3.0 Premium version of the Supra basically comes already loaded, including about $15k in options that BMW would charge separately for. There's only one option available, the "driver-assistance" package, which gives you the complete suite of Safety Tech. I really wish BMW would do this, honestly. |
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01-21-2021, 02:57 AM | #28 |
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Prices in Europe (Spain) as today.
Dollar/Euro 1.21$ for 1€ Paid cash, with taxes etc included Z4 30 i full equipped 90.000$ Z4 30 i base 77.000$ Z4 m40 full equipped 99.000$ Z4 m40 base 87.000$ Z4 30 i full equipped is more expensive than a Z4 m40 base.
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One of the reasons I wanted to get an order in quick. The dollar is losing value against the Euro. I know BMW hedges against currency fluctuations but with the U.S. Federal Reserve pushing for inflation I could imagine prices starting to climb.
When I went to the Christmas markets in Germany in 2019 I was exchanging $1.10 for each Euro. It was almost at parity to spending a buck in Florida as we had a 7% sales tax in Duval at the time. It was a completely different experience from the one I had in 2008 when each Euro cost alomost $1.60. |
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The numbers from carfigures.com make a lot more sense to me than the much higher goodcarbadcar numbers. Canada while having a similar culture only has 11% the population of the US. In addition, Canada has a colder environment on average compared to the US so one should expect that to effect sales. Finally, the Supra sales shown by goodcarbadcar do make sense and are consistent with carfigures and US sales. If we take both those aspects into account, the carfigures.com numbers make a lot more sense than the goodcarbadcar numbers.
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People dont cross shop the Supra and the Z4. The consumer data shows that. Completely different cars with a common engine. I waited to buy the first G29 Z4 and never once went to a Toyota store to even look at a Supra. One is a beautiful design and a perfect car for a spirited ride on a sunny day. The other is a Supra.
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11-08-2021, 07:53 AM | #35 |
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What I find interesting is the ratio of Z4 to Supra sales in the US compared to Europe. They are completely flipped.
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I actually did cross shop both cars. I wasn’t a convertible fan but the interior won me over. Also I got a way better deal on a more expensive car so it was a no brainer.
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In my opinion, the Z4's interior design gets a 9 out of 10. It would have been a perfect 10 if they had figured out a better location for the cup holders.
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Concur, the Z4 interior is leaps and bounds better than the Supra.
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Interesting to note that since the 10 months have elapsed since this thread was started that current pricing indicates I could actually sell my Z4 for more than I paid for it. .....not often you see negative depreciation.
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Agreed but you can still keep half of it done and have your drink it the cup holder. Not so much for the poor passenger though.
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Instead of using the poorly designed cup holder she puts her bottles in the small mesh storage area on her side of the center console. I always remind her to make sure that the bottle cap is screwed on tightly! |
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