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Bean Counters run shit. That’s why it took up until the C7 for the corvette to have a decent interior, yet the Corvette team didn’t have enough money to develop a better spoiler. And the Z06 and Gran Sport have complaints about bent rims. And it’s the reason why the Thunderbird went from a two seater to 2+2, and got bigger and fatter. Bean Counters don’t care about cars, they care about the bottom line.
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I would even open that up from Z3 and Z4 to include the Z8 as well (which eventually came in Alpina form rather than an M version) Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 07-31-2018 at 04:09 PM.. |
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I am beginning to think they aren't smart enough to think that far ahead.. Seriously.. this is the same company that hasn't brought a 2 series sedan to North America.. while Mercedes brings in CLA.. and wipes the floor with BMW on the way to snatching the luxury sales category... and Mercedes won't be letting that sales crown go for awhile because now they are bringing in an A class also.. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimhenr.../#41d9edc74aa7 "Judging by its CLA experience, the Mercedes-Benz A-Class could be on the right track in terms of conquering other entry-level luxury models. Around 60% of CLA buyers came from another brand, and most of those came from non-luxury brands, the company said. " That's BMW reality in the 2010s... they only build GT cars.. Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 07-31-2018 at 05:22 PM.. |
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Bmw feels it needs to make different versions of the 7 series even though no one buys them. They also feel the need to offer a variety of options for the x1, x2, x3, x4, x5, x6 and x7 including m versions of vehicles with the curb weight of my house. Then the m division isn't allowed to work with the only 2 seater in the range??! Come on bmw. Stop being lame. I really can't get into new BMW's.
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Slapping an M badge is everything, why waste resources on full M car After all they need that saved money on blasting balloons using laser mounted M2 |
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Maybe you should take a look at the actual sales figures. Cayman sales are terrible, there is no big opportunity for sports car sales. Unfortunately all of the sales growth is in SUV's and sales of coupes and sedans are tanking. We are fortunate to have the options we have today. Porsche is considering killing the Cayman, the only thing that will save it is commonality with the new 911. I follow the data and it isn't pretty so we need go get the cars we love while we can.
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Not worth the 5 sales worldwide is how I read it
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Z06 and Grand Sport owners complain about bent rims because it's a 19" and 20" ultra wide rims (10" and 12", respectively) riding on super low profile (30 and 25) tires. You can't build rims at that size and expect them to be indestructible. There's no way. Not even with forged wheels no matter how strong they are. It's simply leverage, size, weight and force of impact.
I bent 2 sets of 18" rims on my E46, and completely shattered a forged BBS RG-R. Simple physics when you run over potholes and large train tracks at speed.
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You mean these?
http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales...orsche-cayman/ U.S. Cayman sales figures YTD June (the only report I can find) 2017 (YTD June): 1,153 2018 (YTD June): 1,806 Year to year % increase: 56.63% Looks to me like Cayman sales since Gen 2 has averaged out to be a very consistent ~3,500 units per year. For comparison purposes, this is what BMW Z3/Z4 sales look like: Z3: 113,712 (averages out to ~16,000 per year) E85/6 Z4: ~77,xxx (~11,000 per year) E89 Z4: ~22,xxx (~3,000 per year)
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And yes, lately I attended one of the rare oldtimer races on our only oval course and there were all the jewels of the last century with its visible mechanics, extatic designs and brachial sounds. It was fantastic but the visitors approx. age was 50-60 like me and not much youth around, like when I went there in the 70' as a kid. For the true real lovers of fuel driven, manual gearbox cars the lights will not go off so quickly but the transition to much more efficient drive technologies is already ongoing. I decided earlier to keep my Z3 to have this old scool technic still at hand and I stay with that decision, even I'm meanwhile enlighted of the future by driving this genius i3. And when sometimes the Zi4 is available you will never ask for any kind of gearbox again (which is a support construction anyway, only built to compensate the hughe disadvantages of a fuel motor). One pedal drive in a sports roadster, oh my good that will be soooo f... |
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True, but when models get a very specific engine and a tuned chassis...the car's character and personality changes dramatically.
Shame they said that, but still a chance they will release a M version. Just imagine that new roadster/coupe with flared arches! |
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