[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by jhall1957

They are asking a $10k “market adjustment”. I’m passing. I paid zero mark up for my 1M, M2CS or G87.

Originally Posted by RigaTony1982

Good for you. If more people stop accepting this crap, maybe eventually they’ll stop.

I used a broker for my Z4 last year. I see you’re also Midwest/east coast. They can tell you if they have an allocation if you’re interested. Won’t be an markup for sure

https://www.clutchautodeals.com

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

Market adjustment!!! Oh I’m sure they are giving 10k extra on Z4 trade-ins as well….

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory-2

I am shocked, simply shocked that there is a ADM on the new Z4

Did anyone really doubt this would happen? Greedy dealers will never learn. Got 15% off MSRP on my 2020 once everything was counted in + 0.9% interest on an instock car. Only the second instock BMW I have ever bought.

Was a no brainer as the only thing missing from what I was prepared to order was the premium moonlight roof.

My worse BMW deal ever was the 2022 at MSRP during the big shortages less the BMWCCA rebate. My dealer held MSRP all through the shortages when some M4C's in CA. were going for $20K ADM.

Might be someone to check Leith BMW Raleigh NC.

Originally Posted by Argo

That $10K markup is them fishing. Would immediately walk away.

I would call back and ask for the sales manager. Tell him that you are warning everyone on Bimmerpost that they are trying to pull this ADM BS and it is totally unacceptable. That instead of giving this dealership great reviews online you are going to trash them.

I would also start a thread in our General BMW News and Cars Discussion forum warning our fellow members that BMW Norwood, MA is trying to ripoff people with this ADM practice and to stay clear of them.
https://g29.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=133

[tracer bullet]

Looks like I'm paying MSRP. My dealer wouldn't go down, claimed others want their first allocation as well. I can't verify or deny if that's true, but it seems MSRP isn't a bad deal.

No way I'd pay +10k. As much as I would like the car I think it's currently a bit of a stretch for what you get already. MSRP's about 5k lower seem more in line with what you get, but I guess that's an opinion and for a different thread.

[jhall1957]

Originally Posted by Argo

That $10K markup is them fishing. Would immediately walk away.

I did. Took all my willpower to not tell them to f themselves

[jhall1957]

Originally Posted by Westside Guy

I would call back and ask for the sales manager. Tell him that you are warning everyone on Bimmerpost that they are trying to pull this ADM BS and it is totally unacceptable. That instead of giving this dealership great reviews online you are going to trash them.

I would also start a thread in our General BMW News and Cars Discussion forum warning our fellow members that BMW Norwood, MA is trying to ripoff people with this ADM practice and to stay clear of them.
https://g29.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=133

His title is sales manager!

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by jhall1957

His title is sales manager!

Then tell this a-hole where he can go and let him know you are posting negative reviews. 😡

[jhall1957]

Originally Posted by Westside Guy

Then tell this a-hole where he can go and let him know you are posting negative reviews. 😡

The better idea is for us to ignore that dealership, BUT there is always so
done they will sell it to.

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by jhall1957

The better idea is for us to ignore that dealership, BUT there is always so
done they will sell it to.

A sucker is born every day and vultures like this look forward to taking advantage of them!

[mdoneinvt]

Originally Posted by jhall1957

They are asking a $10k “market adjustment”. I’m passing. I paid zero mark up for my 1M, M2CS or G87.

I’m glad you passed and if i was told that by my salesman I would never buy another BMW ever again. They need to stand against the dealers ripping people off and if they refuse to stop the mark ups they should pull their dealership rights permanently. That would stop the rest from doing the same.

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by mdoneinvt

I’m glad you passed and if i was told that by my salesman I would never buy another BMW ever again. They need to stand against the dealers ripping people off and if they refuse to stop the mark ups they should pull their dealership rights permanently. That would stop the rest from doing the same.

I hope that you meant that you would never buy another BMW from that dealership again.

[GerryC]

Originally Posted by mdoneinvt

I’m glad you passed and if i was told that by my salesman I would never buy another BMW ever again. They need to stand against the dealers ripping people off and if they refuse to stop the mark ups they should pull their dealership rights permanently. That would stop the rest from doing the same.

Nice thought, but BMW can't really do much other than limit their allocations. Dealer franchise laws are skewed heavily in the dealers favor. They are big business in most states and they have a lot of leverage in the statehouse.

[BmwIowa]

Originally Posted by jhall1957

I’ve done 5 PCD’s and 3 euro deliveries, but that would make picking up easy!

I did Euro Delivery in 2014...and two PCD's since....if ONLY Euro Delivery was still available! Highly recommend PCD...you don't have to worry about your local dealer "touching" your new BMW or running it through their "scratch-o-matic" car wash!

[SpeedyATL]

While not a fan of most dealers, i don't have a big problem with them asking ADMs. I just move on....

As a small business owner myself, i would not want someone threatening bad reviews, etc simply because i choose to price my services/product a certain way. I'm the one risking my capital on inventory, infrastructure, saleries, etc.

Now not being upfront and honest about pricing or other junk fees is a different story. Bait and switch is something that drives me crazy.

There are dozen of bmw dealers within a day's drive of most anywhere in the US. Just take your business elsewhere, they'll learn their lesson, eventually.

You can always use the most convenient dealer for service.

[rikwynnpa]

This kind of thing will never stop in this country. Its supply and demand capitalism. My sense is even though BMW said they would build as many manual Z4s as they have orders for that depends on how many orders they get. They only have so many slots at Magna Styr to build this car including the automatics. If they get 2X the interest in the car there may be people who dont get cars. On top of that there is like no inventory of Z4s in the US to soak up some of the demand. I expect BMW to stop taking manual orders eventually for MY25. I ordered very early because I expected the ADM thing to happen. This car costs $75K when a comparable Boxster GTS is $100K. The dealers know the market.

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory-2

I am shocked, simply shocked that there is a ADM on the new Z4

Did anyone really doubt this would happen? Greedy dealers will never learn. Got 15% off MSRP on my 2020 once everything was counted in + 0.9% interest on an instock car. Only the second instock BMW I have ever bought.

Was a no brainer as the only thing missing from what I was prepared to order was the premium moonlight roof.

My worse BMW deal ever was the 2022 at MSRP during the big shortages less the BMWCCA rebate. My dealer held MSRP all through the shortages when some M4C's in CA. were going for $20K ADM.

Might be someone to check Leith BMW Raleigh NC.

[nellborg]

I think I f’d up my order. I test drove a ‘23 automatic from Murray BMW in Salt Lake City last month and decided to order one - and from them, figuring that the warm weather drive home to Wisconsin would make a nice trip. Plus, they said that they already had 2 Handschalter orders in which made me think that allocations were not an issue. I sent them a $2k non refundable deposit - which was stupid in retrospect. I now see that a deposit should have been made after an allocation was secured.

To all of you who have an allocation, did you get confirmation directly from BMW, or just from your dealer?

[GerryC]

Originally Posted by nellborg

I think I f’d up my order. I test drove a ‘23 automatic from Murray BMW in Salt Lake City last month and decided to order one - and from them, figuring that the warm weather drive home to Wisconsin would make a nice trip. Plus, they said that they already had 2 Handschalter orders in which made me think that allocations were not an issue. I sent them a $2k non refundable deposit - which was stupid in retrospect. I now see that a deposit should have been made after an allocation was secured.

To all of you who have an allocation, did you get confirmation directly from BMW, or just from your dealer?

When I ordered my last two vehicles, my CA printed out a Vehicle Inquiry report. It showed the ordered configuration, Production Number, sold to: with my name in the field, and Status: 112 Scheduled for Production.

As an unsold allocation, they were in the system as Status 111. Once it was marked as sold to a customer, they jumped to Status 112.

If it doesn't have a Production Number, there is no allocation.

[Rcasa20]

Originally Posted by SpeedyATL

While not a fan of most dealers, i don't have a big problem with them asking ADMs. I just move on....

As a small business owner myself, i would not want someone threatening bad reviews, etc simply because i choose to price my services/product a certain way. I'm the one risking my capital on inventory, infrastructure, saleries, etc.

Now not being upfront and honest about pricing or other junk fees is a different story. Bait and switch is something that drives me crazy.

There are dozen of bmw dealers within a day's drive of most anywhere in the US. Just take your business elsewhere, they'll learn their lesson, eventually.

You can always use the most convenient dealer for service.

Agree. Nobody freaks out when we try to negotiate below MSRP so why get up in arms when the market turns and they ask above MSRP. I just won’t pay it and will wait for pricing to adjust.

[nellborg]

Mine says,

“status: 047 - spec released- no quota avail”

…which sounds like I have a non refundable deposit on a car for which they have no allocation, correct?

[BEAR-AvHistory-2]

Originally Posted by nellborg

Mine says,

“status: 047 - spec released- no quota avail”

…which sounds like I have a non refundable deposit on a car for which they have no allocation, correct?

"Status: 047 - Spec. released-no quota avail. ... 047 means that there was no available slot in that month's allocation.

Was mentioned a few times "no production number at or a few days after purchase" no dealer allocation. They sold you a car they have no claim on & have no idea when they will get one.

I expect they have also not said if you are #1 in the G29 order bank or if anyone is ahead of you.

[jdf_nh]

Originally Posted by nellborg

Mine says,

“status: 047 - spec released- no quota avail”

…which sounds like I have a non refundable deposit on a car for which they have no allocation, correct?

My position as well. From my dealer "There is not a single manual Z4 assigned to any store or as a sold unit anywhere in the country so I think it's just a parts availability holding things up right now as they are producing automatics."

Pretty vague tbh, but the lack of new allocations being talked about on this thread makes it seem like we are in (hopefully temporary) limbo as the production process ramps up.

Are they still taking orders on 2024 automatics?

[Argo]

Originally Posted by jdf_nh

Are they still taking orders on 2024 automatics?

No, those have also moved on to the 2025MY.

[Kevin45E]

Originally Posted by jdf_nh

My position as well. From my dealer "There is not a single manual Z4 assigned to any store or as a sold unit anywhere in the country so I think it's just a parts availability holding things up right now as they are producing automatics."

Pretty vague tbh, but the lack of new allocations being talked about on this thread makes it seem like we are in (hopefully temporary) limbo as the production process ramps up.

There are many people on the forum waiting for a 6MT allocation right now but there are also people getting allocations https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=31010131 and moving to production. https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=31005476

My understanding of what that dealer is saying does not line up with what is being said in this forum.

[nellborg]

So, I guess that if I am in the same situation as many many others, then I can understand the shortage of allocations while they are being rolled out. But I might start calling around, too, because I hate not knowing if I will even get one.