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      09-14-2019, 07:21 PM   #331
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Wishful thinking I know, but with all the various vehicles available today with 700bhp BMW should want in. And what better car to do it with than the M5. Dynos are already showing a tad over 600 ft-lb of max torque at the wheels for a stock M5C, which is very underrated by BMW at 553btq. It's possible the M5 CS gets rated at around 580 ft-lb of torque at the engine while actually producing 635 ft-lb at the wheels. BMW also underrates hp on the M5C where their bhp rating is actually the amount of what's getting produced at the wheels.

So more likely the M5 CS will be producing something like 640whp/635wtq. Getting rated by BMW somewhere around 640bhp/580btq. But we all know it should be 700bhp! C'mon BMW, join the 700 club.
They just won't join 700HP club yet.

I really don't care because mine F90 M5 that I tuned had 850HP
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Well I'll be more impressed if they get M5CS lighter..., also a true hardcore M5 probably doesn't make much sense, what's CS suppose go be? Like competition is occasional track and CS frequent is more frequent track?
I guess more for track, I would love to see lose 200lbs
Might as well bring CSL
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I guess more for track, I would love to see lose 200lbs
Might as well bring CSL
That would be cool, but I just don't see the necessities of hardcore M5
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      09-14-2019, 07:58 PM   #334
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That would be cool, but I just don't see the necessities of hardcore M5
Me not either, but they have something going on with M8
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BMW is planning to offer the largest battery among all BEVs on the market at 120kWh. It will go into the model that we haven't seen yet, and I'm not yet going to speculate on the car itself.


I am curious as to which model this is.
First will be the new Jaguar XJ and J-Pace.
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BMW is planning to offer the largest battery among all BEVs on the market at 120kWh. It will go into the model that we haven't seen yet, and I'm not yet going to speculate on the car itself.


I am curious as to which model this is.
First will be the new Jaguar XJ and J-Pace.
Batteries are only part of the equation.

JLR is said to be soon buying their eMotors from BMW.

Regardless, they unfortunately have an absolutely horrible reputation for reliability.
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At this rate we're going to get a X7M CSL
Lol rear seats delete.
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M5CS just think of the weight saving potential with 4 doors than than a coupes 2.

Extra 2 doors worth a fabric door opener

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M5CS just think of the weight saving potential with 4 doors than than a coupes 2.

Extra 2 doors worth a fabric door opener

I know this was an attempt at humor, but I figure it’s worth reminding everyone that we already know how the interior of a four door CS differs from a two door CS model - we have the M3 CS as a guide for that. Among other changes, it gets the standard non-lightweight door cards from the non-CS M3. In fact, since there is no coupe model that shares any interior parts with an 5er/M5, I’d expect the M5 CS interior to differ from the standard M5 in color only, or possibly some upholstery/trim material variation. I would not expect any unique, light-weighted parts.
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I know this was an attempt at humor, but I figure it's worth reminding everyone that we already know how the interior of a four door CS differs from a two door CS model - we have the M3 CS as a guide for that. Among other changes, it gets the standard non-lightweight door cards from the non-CS M3. In fact, since there is no coupe model that shares any interior parts with an 5er/M5, I'd expect the M5 CS interior to differ from the standard M5 in color only, or possibly some upholstery/trim material variation. I would not expect any unique, light-weighted parts.
I guess we all wish to shred as much weight as possible.

I hope they drop those super heavy seats, get lighter wheels/ brakes and more CFP and be around low 4K lbs

I can't weight to see final product
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M5 CS?

Always a favorite read and a big fan of the CS recipe but an M5 CS?!? How would that work? I can understand the M8 CS but don’t see the point of a bare bones, no slack suspension bat winged, luxury saloon (Sedan).

Don’t get me wrong, I would to see a 700 BHP version of the beloved M5 but it should also do the cushy bits as well and not have ribbons for door handles.
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The on-again off-again X1 M35i is on again.
Are there any dates for the X1 M35i?
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They aren't going to revive the legendary CSL designation on an old model nor their entry level M model.
Perhaps a little CSL education.

BMW currently has the following race going models in their lineup.... and all racing in North America currently.

M8 GTE
M4 GT4
M240 racing - soon to be replaced by an M2 racing

M8 GTE a car designed for the track first and then the production car came out.

M4 GT4- currently at end of life with new model coming ?

M2 racing - currently being designed on the track ...

Sure seems to me a slam dunk to roll out roadgoing models of the same as M8 CSL, M4 CSL, and M2. CSL.

Unless BMW simply wants to allow Porsche , Mercedes and Audi to take all the race on Sunday and drive on Monday ////marketing and sales.
M6 GT3 will be supported until 2022 and likely replaced by the upcoming M4 GT3 unless they can't get a waiver for CLAR. If that's the case I expect M4 will stay GT4 and this special M only platform will form the basis of the GT3 much like the AMG GT and R8 are unique platforms.
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Are there any dates for the X1 M35i?
_If_ it comes, it'll be in a couple of years.
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Just a quick update about F44: expect the reveal within weeks with series production starting in November.
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Any update on G30/F90 LCI ?
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Any update on G30/F90 LCI ?
https://www.motor1.com/photo/4365952...rst-spy-photo/
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Any update on G30/F90 LCI ?
Slightly related to this, BMW now has confirmed the 48V mild hybrid system (starting) in the 520d from November in today's PR about the november "Modellpflegemaßnahmen".
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Thank you! So now we can see back lights redesigned more than in previous spy photos.
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Slightly related to this, BMW now has confirmed the 48V mild hybrid system (starting) in the 520d from November in today's PR about the november "Modellpflegemaßnahmen".
Finally. Those cars are out there already, even listed in the ETK, I was really confused by the absence of any PR.
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_If_ it comes, it'll be in a couple of years.
..Which would put it very close to EOP for the F48?
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These models should get the 48V electrical system in 2020:

G20/G21 316d, 318d, 320d, M340xd
G01/G02 X3/X4 xDrive20d, xDrive30d, M40d
G05/G06 X5/X6 xDrive30d, sDrive40i, xDrive40i, xDrive40d
G07 X7 xDrive40d
G11/G12 730d, 740d (including xDrives)
G30 LCI 518d, 520d, 523d, 530d, 540d, 520i, 530i, 540i (including xDrives)
G32 620d, 630d, 640d, 630i, 640i (including xDrives)
G14/G15/G16 840xd
G22/G23 4er - 420d, M440i (including xDrives)

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