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Overcharging by 50% no less!
There are so many ways dealerships have their hand in your pockets these days that many people don't realize they are being fleeced for another $5k or more. There's even the financing kickbacks which seems way more prevalent these days. Rob |
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95k CDN to US is about $71k.
These fees that Rob_G77 was talking about are absolutely insane.
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I live in a different country so protocols are different, but the latest scam here is that dealerships take an optional item and make it compulsory.
I bought a Honda civic for my wife and the dealer insisted that they do ceramic coating because it was compulsory. Was listed as an option in the brochure AND on the eventual sales sheet that they gave me. I asked the sales assistant if he thought Honda knew his dealership was forcing people to take the option and he said probably not. Move on to BMW to buy my Z4 and suddenly the option of a 3 year free servicing package is compulsory. Shown on website and brochure as option, listed on sales sheet as option, but they won’t sell you the car without it. Dealers are always looking for scams and if one does it and gets away with it, more follow. Unfortunately, often there is only one dealer per province unless you go to Bangkok, which is 1k km away from me. |
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For the BMW, I called the BMW call Centre in Bangkok. After explaining that an “option” was being made compulsory, I asked the call Centre employee whether the dealer was ripping me off or if it was BMW policy. Here’s where it gets weird. At first she simply recited back the benefits of 3 years free servicing. At which point I reiterated my view that it was cheaper for me to pay for servicing rather than take the “option” and repeated my initial query. Rinse and repeat that a few times, with me getting more and more pointed about the fact that the dealer appeared to be ripping me off and deviating from BMW policy. At which point she sounds confused about what she should say and goes to talk to her supervisor. Wait two/three minutes and she comes back on totally confident and repeats as if by heart a paragraph saying that all dealers abide by BMW standards, or words to that effect. Simply repeats that standard wording exactly, each time I press her. Call ends. So then I have a choice, get turned off by the whole episode and look for some other car to buy, or shrug my shoulders and say oh well never mind. I opted for the latter. Life is too short for me to go on a crusade against a BMW dealer over the equivelent of USD3k and even if I got BMW to agree that their dealer was acting wrongly, the dealer would hate me from then on and the whole purchase would leave a sour taste in my mouth, instead of being an enjoyable experience. So now it’s in the back of my mind still, but I can enjoy my car 😎. |
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There are a bunch of Z’s for sale, at least around here, and it’s winter so they sell more slowly… you have the upper hand. Just go somewhere else.
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Think it’s a case of different countries, different circumstances. No such thing as winter in Thailand. It’s wet season, or hot season. Come to think of it, wet season is pretty hot too. We are pretty close to the equator 🤗
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Yes being in Seskatchewan doesn’t help things. There’s probably 5 dealers within a 500 mile radius if I had to take a wild guess.
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I don't know what the answer is. When I purchased, I had no choice but to get wheel locks, first aid kit, all-season mats, 'paint protection' and LoJack; at an extra cost. Even though I didn't need those things, I paid, anyway. It was the only one in the country which matched my criteria.
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Interestingly, 4 years ago I bought a new Benz C43 from a Bangkok dealer and the sales lady was very interested to know where I would get the car serviced. I asked her whether there would be any problem getting the car serviced by the Phuket dealer, given that I didn’t buy the car from them. She told me that they would be very keen to do the servicing because the dealer makes more from servicing than the sale of the new car! I don’t know if that is true, but it’s what she told me. After paying for the first service on that car, I kinda do believe it. It wasn’t cheap given that there really isn’t much to do on a new car. And they tried to sell me all sorts of add ons such oil additives etc. So I think the moral of the story is that if a dealers hands are tied in terms of the base pricing of the car, anything that they can sell on top represents good profit and they will do anything to tie that to the car purchase decision. |
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The service department is the largest profit maker at a dealer.
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