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      11-30-2015, 11:34 AM   #1
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Been today at Ford dealear nearby, got impressed with new Ford Explorer coming out

regret made no photos, here is official one


engine specs on official page: http://www.ford.com/suvs/explorer/sp...ations/engine/

some reviews here and here

Not that i'm really thinking on changing my BMW, but have you driven a bigger vehicles in a long term? Not mention a 18-wheelers ;-)
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      11-30-2015, 11:37 AM   #2
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And yeah, I like red color, but never thought of having red BMW, how could this be?
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Outside of Imola, BMW sucks at red.
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      11-30-2015, 02:15 PM   #4
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I love Barbera red metallic there's a lot of nice individual colors that BMW has.

Personally I would never get an Explorer its just a soccer mom car and would handle terribly compared to a BMW. We have leased many as business vehicles and while initial quality is great, after the warrenty is over everything that can go wrong does and this has happened on 4 f150s. We got tired of it and just bought a tundra couldn't be happier.

Only thing this has on our cars is tech since we have an ageing platform however I would much rather buy a CPO x5 over a new explorer.
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I love Barbera red metallic there's a lot of nice individual colors that BMW has.

Personally I would never get an Explorer its just a soccer mom car and would handle terribly compared to a BMW. We have leased many as business vehicles and while initial quality is great, after the warrenty is over everything that can go wrong does and this has happened on 4 f150s. We got tired of it and just bought a tundra couldn't be happier.

Only thing this has on our cars is tech since we have an ageing platform however I would much rather buy a CPO x5 over a new explorer.
My GF ended up going with the BMW X3 35i instead of the Ford Explorer Sport. It was mainly due to dimensions. She currently drives a Honda Civic Hybrid (manual) and a Explorer is a huge change in type of vehicle.

However, an Explorer Sport handles really well for a vehicle its size and price range.

As for quality, the Ford Explorer Sport is a severe duty fleet vehicle. It probably gets pushed harder than most BMWs everyday as a police vehicle. This definitely has its advantages as it's put through more real world testing than most other SUVs.
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Outside of Imola, BMW sucks at red.
Hellrot & Melbourne disagree with the above statement.



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Meh, just prefer my reds with more blue, less yellow. Just like the difference in Rosso Corsa and Scuderia Red:

[img]http://www.ferrarilife.com/forums/at...deria-vs-rosso[/img]

[img]http://s9.postimg.org/unjypdg4v/image.jpg[/img]

Melbourne is metallic, not a fan of metallic paints. Yet I currently own a Sapphire Black one and a metallic white one. Oops.
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Hellrot:
[img]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2...e/IMG_2638.jpg[/img]

Imola:
[img]http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w.../IMG_09351.jpg[/img]

Of course none of this has anything to do with burgundy Exploders.
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I'm still trying to figure out what this thread is about.
Pork rinds.
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Shopping big SUVS now. GL, Escalade, Yukon Denali XL, etc are on the list of test drives. Any suggestions?
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Money is no object, it's GL63 all day. Money is something of a factor, Yukon Denali XL. Money is the main factor, Toyota Sequoia.
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Pssh, it's even red.

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Shopping big SUVS now. GL, Escalade, Yukon Denali XL, etc are on the list of test drives. Any suggestions?
My thoughts on GL:
Pros:
-Styling : Refined / Classy.
-Interior : Depends on the options you choose. I found the interior to have a high quality finish.

Cons:
- Paying a high premium for something that isn't that special.
- Comfort : Lack of I should say.
- Premium Trim : GL 550 4Matic starts at $91k
- Maint. : Be prepared to shell out $$$

What could make it better:
- If performance is something you truly enjoy even in big SUV then the GL63 would be something that will put a smile to your face, but the price tag to it not so much

Note that the GL63 AMG starts at $121k, a SUV is made to transport people around in the safest manner not made to transport you and your family around at high speeds.

My thoughts on the Escalade ESV:
Pros:
- Comfort : Probably in my opinion the most comfortable SUV made.
- Features / Options : A lot come standard, and if anything you need any else its reasonably priced.
- Styling : Gorgeous.
- Premium Trim : ESV Platinum starts at $93k
- Maint. : More reasonable than a Mercedes.

Cons:
- None that I can think of.

If Escalade is above your price point then a Yukon Denali XL is your second best choice.
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Outside of Imola, BMW sucks at red.
That's a personal opinion. I loved my Canyon Red 540i and love my Siena Red Z3. Had an Imola Red M3 and liked that color the least of the three. Also had a Cinnabar Red 325is and liked that red also.

I have never had one, but Melbourne Red, Vermillion Red and Chiaretto Red were all great reds.
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Any thoughts on the expedition or navigator,? They have the new turbo 6 and do 0-60 in 6.5. I'm a speed hound. Infiniti qx I'm also looking at. Want to keep it below 70k. Figure a used 2015 escalade or Yukon Denali xl. Sequoia is too small.
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Outside of Imola, BMW sucks at red.
That's a personal opinion. I loved my Canyon Red 540i and love my Siena Red Z3. Had an Imola Red M3 and liked that color the least of the three. Also had a Cinnabar Red 325is and liked that red also.

I have never had one, but Melbourne Red, Vermillion Red and Chiaretto Red were all great reds.
Of course it's an opinion. If it helps, I prefer Sakhir (and Inka) more than most of BMW's red efforts.
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Of course it's an opinion. If it helps, I prefer Sakhir (and Inka) more than most of BMW's red efforts.
I'm kind of partial to Sakhir myself. Also forgot to mention that I had a Henna Red 2002.
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Any thoughts on the expedition or navigator,? They have the new turbo 6 and do 0-60 in 6.5. I'm a speed hound. Infiniti qx I'm also looking at. Want to keep it below 70k. Figure a used 2015 escalade or Yukon Denali xl. Sequoia is too small.
Can't say much about Expedition nor Navigator as I have never driven or spent considerable time in either.

If you are considering the QX why not take a look at the Grand Cherokee SRT?

2015 CPO Escalade / Denali XL is best choices. My opinion is biased but when it comes to large SUVs I prefer comfort over performance.

It would also help besides performance what other things are you looking for?

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My grand cherokee lease comes up in a few months and I am fed up with jeep service. I am probably going to move on to something else.

I need a non flashy suv for work. I am going to take a look at the Explorer, not sure what else to look at. Maybe a Volvo? Do Volvos stick out these days?
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My grand cherokee lease comes up in a few months and I am fed up with jeep service. I am probably going to move on to something else.

I need a non flashy suv for work. I am going to take a look at the Explorer, not sure what else to look at. Maybe a Volvo? Do Volvos stick out these days?
Could you elaborate on your experience? Not in the market but would consider a GC in the future.

The new Volvo XC90 is stunning
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Could you elaborate on your experience? Not in the market but would consider a GC in the future.

The new Volvo XC90 is stunning
All dealers are backed up with recalls. It takes at least 2 weeks to get an appointment for service and even with an appointment that does not guarantee they look at your car then, that is just the soonest you can drop it off. They also don't do loaners, but I expected that.

That being said, I really like the car and only had minor issues in the last 1.5 years, but if something major goes wrong I will be out of a car for a while with no loaner.

I currently have a check engine light on, my "appointment" to drop it off is on 12/15.
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