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Edit: Here's some info form 034; Their tune in particular seems to pop #6.
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03-20-2024, 08:28 PM | #24 |
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You can get a CPO GTS that includes air suspension and then you don’t have to worry about it. Can add third year of CPO warranty for like $2500-3000. GTS is the way to go anyway.
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I owned a 2017 Macan Turbo I loved, but was offered a sweet deal on a 2020 Cayenne Turbo Coupe. While it was also awesome, it was just a bit too big for me, so I ended up with a 2023 Macan GTS. She’s definitely a keeper.
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Yes correct. Just wanted to be sure that people were aware of this. Have one friend right now with a blown s4 motor, cost is $10k and that's with a hookup.
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I know what the macan can do at autoX first hand and its mind blowing. Itll do sports car stuff better than a lot of sports cars. It was on my short spring list for cars and I decided I needed max off-road capability instead, but its the real deal in “sporty crossover” IME.
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I like Audi (VW/VAG Group) and I'll be the first to say the Urus is a tarted up VW. It's built on VW's MLB EVO platform (same as the VW Toureg, Audi Q7/8 (and RS variants), the Porsche Cayenne, and Bentley Bentayga). It even shares switch gear and the same engine (slightly detuned on the RSQ8).
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I had a 911 for 10 years and had to sell because the engine had a fatal flaw that caused a class action law suit. Porsche didn’t do the right thing. They seem to have to many major engine flaws plus ownership costs are to high
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No. All EA839s are the same in the same way all B58s are the same. EA839 comes in 3.0T and 2.9TT variants. Vehicle applications have obvious differences for example intake ducting, exhaust routing, and tuning. Standard practice for all brands for decades. Old news. Early EA839 Audi builds had cam roller failures. After MY19 nearly zero of these failures have been reported on Audi or Porsche forums. |
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03-21-2024, 11:20 AM | #35 |
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03-21-2024, 11:23 AM | #36 |
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Anyone shopping Porsche and comparing other brands on price is barking up the wrong tree.
Regarding service, Porsche service is easily double the BMW price for the same service. Double MB service price for spark plugs, for example. It makes no sense, other than some people pay it. Indy or DIY are the obvious options. Parts bought OTC at the dealer are double the price they can be purchased online and delivered, from an authorized Porsche dealer. |
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I have loved the Macan every time I have driven one. It handles better than the majority of sports sedans and the added ride height is nice to have. As others have mentioned, the back seat is definitely on the smaller side so if you regularly have passengers that it definitely something to consider. it is ultimately what steered me away from the Macan and to the Cayenne I currently own.
As for the maintenance cost - everyone is spot on Porsche maintenance is $$$$. Yes, an indy shop will definitely save you a good chunk over the dealer but they are still pricey too. If you can DIY work thats great, otherwise be prepared for much higher costs than you are used to with BMW. |
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I was not aware of 2020's seeing the ring issues fixed that is good. Do you per chance know what the actual root cause of lean conditions in cyl 6? I've heard from other tuners that it'll just randomly pull 5-8 degrees of timing from that cylinder normally.
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The early EA839 issue was cam roller, not rings. No idea on tuning and timing. The intake manifold is overly simplistic imo and air enters from one end and needs to reach the rear cylinders. I can imagine distribution is not the best in naturally aspirated mode. In max boost it probably doesn’t matter. |
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I test drove a Macan S a few years ago. I remember pronounced turbo lag and driving dynamics that didn't feel much different form the car it was based on (first gen Q5). All in all, a rather unspectacular vehicle.
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Do you know which engine? It changed a few years ago. The 2.9L twin turbo is quite lively. I have a slightly higher output version of that engine in a 21 Cayenne S and do not notice turbo lag. Maybe the detuned Macan version has lag?
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Pretty sure it was a 3.0L single turbo.
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