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      08-26-2015, 04:01 PM   #155
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The person living in the country that doesn't hand out guns like candy so the intruder is not armed to begin with.
You're changing your tune now. Will you answer my question?
And I didn't mention the intruder having a firearm. Btw.
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      08-26-2015, 04:02 PM   #156
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.....aaaaand Nick the Greek just joined my list of posters to block.

Man I love that feature, I can only take so much dumb.
That is merely an admission that you lost the debate.

Presumably you are employed by an arms manufacturer.
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      08-26-2015, 04:04 PM   #157
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Well, that would cost money. And we all know companies don't like to spend.

TXSTYLE That video you posted gets me upset. I've seen lots of these types of videos where people are "not breaking the law and exercising their rights". But really, what is the point? To me, people who do this are the equivalent of putting your finger one inch from someone's face and taunting "I'm not touching you! I'm not touching you!". It's douchey and annoying.

In the video, the guy keeps saying he wants the cops to put their guns down because his is behind his back. Does he not think that the officer figures it wouldn't take long for the guy to sling his weapon forward and fire?

And what's the point of standing with this 2 friends outside a building with rifles? What is he accomplishing? Then he says he doesn't like the cops treating him like a terrorist. Well, how do they know he isn't one? These guys, as well as the guys that point cameras at cops and federal buildings, under the premise of "it's legal to record from a public place", really annoy me. They are not educating or informing anyone, they're just being annoying jerks getting a rise out of cops under the protection that it's legal to do so.
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Don't start me on this.

"I am a responsible gun owner, i lock my shit up in a childproof container buried in a hard to reach secret compartment between the drywall".

Great. now what happens when you need to defend yourself, "wait, wait sir, gimmie a sec i need to go fetch the key to the crate that holds the gun and the second key that opens the munitions case in another room, you know, to be safe 'cos kids live here ... gimmie a sec then we can settle our difference".

spare me.
You've made my point.

If guns were not so widely and easily available, you would not need a gun to defend yourself.
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      08-26-2015, 04:12 PM   #159
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Agreed. Just remember when this thing was written. Needs to evolve with the times.
THIS right here is one of the most intelligent posts in the thread (there are others too).

I can just shake my head when I hear certain folks whine about and pull the 1st Amendment out there ass!

YES!!!! It is a "point of reference and educational tool" but LOOK AT HOW FAR THE EARTH AND IT'S PEOPLE HAVE PROGRESSED????

Compared to when it was written is nearly like the Stone Age compared to today's: Technology, Communication, Weapons of Mass Destruction, Transportation, Voter Rights, etc.

Get a Grip people.
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THIS right here is one of the most intelligent posts in the thread (there are others too).

I can just shake my head when I hear certain folks whine about and pull the 1st Amendment out there ass!

YES!!!! It is a "point of reference and educational tool" but LOOK AT HOW FAR THE EARTH AND IT'S PEOPLE HAVE PROGRESSED????

Compared to when it was written is nearly like the Stone Age compared to today's: Technology, Communication, Weapons of Mass Destruction, Transportation, Voter Rights, etc.


Get a Grip people.
Then get busy amending it.
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THIS right here is one of the most intelligent posts in the thread (there are others too).

I can just shake my head when I hear certain folks whine about and pull the 1st Amendment out there ass!

YES!!!! It is a "point of reference and educational tool" but LOOK AT HOW FAR THE EARTH AND IT'S PEOPLE HAVE PROGRESSED????

Compared to when it was written is nearly like the Stone Age compared to today's: Technology, Communication, Weapons of Mass Destruction, Transportation, Voter Rights, etc.

Get a Grip people.
Indeed.

It's the same people who say the founding fathers words are still appropriate today, who criticise religion for being 1000 years out of date!!

Fact is, that was then, this is now.
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Hell... By that logic, Women would NOT be voting, Slavery would still be legal and exist here in the US and Bi-Racial couples (such as myself and my family) would be illegal among other things.

My beloved Grandmother who is 101 and still living in great health (praise God) has ALWAYS said something that will always stick with me... "Common Sense" is not used nearly enough by people.

That is so true!
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Then get busy amending it.
Too many vested interests!
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I like engaging in friendly debate as long as we can be civil and respectful.
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Indeed.

It's the same people who say the founding fathers words are still appropriate today, who criticise religion for being 1000 years out of date!!

Fact is, that was then, this is now.
You two can work together then. Get busy amending it. It provides means to bring it up to date. Amendment process. It's right in there. You ought to read it.
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Too many vested interests!
Yup. Those pesky US citizens.
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      08-26-2015, 04:27 PM   #167
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We should have stricter gun laws like Mexico.. Oh wait
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You two can work together then. Get busy amending it. It provides means to bring it up to date. Amendment process. It's right in there. You ought to read it.
I think you might find that's your job, not mine. We have enough of our own problems this side of the pond
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I'll stick with the founders' intent for the greatest nation in the history of the planet.

Until one of you has your head carved in a mountain, then I might listen.
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I like engaging in friendly debate as long as we can be civil and respectful.
Indeed.

It's sad that when someone knows their beaten, they throw all their toys out of the pram.
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I'll stick with the founders' intent for the greatest nation in the history of the planet.

Until one of you has your head carved in a mountain, then I might listen.
Indeed.

It was surely as great an achievement as the Pyramids, the great wall of China, the hanging gardens of Babylon, the colossus of Rhodes and the Temple of Artemis.......
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I think you might find that's your job, not mine. We have enough of our own problems this side of the pond
I'm not the one criticizing the U.S. Constitution. But as long as we are giving advice on how to fix problems in other countries. I can only presume you are Greek. So I'll play too. The Greeks should try not being lazy, drunk, deadbeats. That would fix a lot of those problems on your side of the pond.
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I'm not the one criticizing the U.S. Constitution. But as long as we are giving advice on how to fix problems in other countries. I can only presume you are Greek. So I'll play too. The Greeks should try not being lazy, drunk, deadbeats. That would fix a lot of those problems on your side of the pond.
Life has taught me that once insults are thrown, you have lost the argument.

It's usually a cover for being unable to engage further in a cogent cognitive processes of debate.

There was no criticism implied of your constitution.

Merely an observation, that it's out if date.
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Ashley Madison GAURANTEED my privacy, but got hacked.

Putting together a gun registration database, the (various and sundry) governmental bodies guarantee it won't get hacked and nobody will know what quantity/type of guns I LEGALLY own.

I support background checks, done in a TIMELY manner, as long as you agree to allow me to own/not own guns based on LOGICAL comparisons of their killing power, not that they "look like" an assault rifle, or gangster weapon, or some other perceived attribute of the gun. IF I could launch a SAM with a hand-held grip, should I be allowed?
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      08-26-2015, 04:59 PM   #175
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I consider a Non-American posting what are essentially "I told you so(s)"on a day of national tragedy such as this as very insulting and in very poor taste. Especially in the condescending way in which you did it (to me and others)..
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Thank you all for your interest. I will leave you now having enjoyed our exchanges. From a professional perspective (as a psychiatrist) it's been most instructive.
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