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      12-05-2017, 09:17 PM   #1
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Comrade Paul Manafort was given two conditions of $11M bail: no alcohol, no Russians.

Guess which one he violates?
Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was ghostwriting an op-ed while out on bail last month with a Russian who has ties to the Russian intelligence service, Justice Department Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team said Monday.

In a new filing Monday afternoon, Mueller's investigators said Manafort was working on an editorial in English as late as last Thursday and that it related to his political work for Ukraine, which factored into his money-laundering and foreign lobbying criminal charges.
The filing asks for the court to revisit a bail agreement Mueller's office and Manafort's lawyers made jointly last week.
If only he was a child molester, then he'd just have to be a Republican Senator.
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He just can't stop helping the Russians. This won't be good for his trial.
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"political work for Ukraine"

Last I check Ukraine and Russia are two entirely different nations who actually hate each other and are at war with one another.

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"political work for Ukraine"

Last I check Ukraine and Russia add two entirely different nations who actually hate each other and are at war with one another.
There's a bit more to the story than that though. Manafort and Gates were working with Putin's Ukrainian puppet-party who's leader (who also became President) was charged with high treason against the Ukraine because of his pro-Putin agenda. He fled to.....Russia, of all places.
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Comrade Paul Manafort was given two conditions of $11M bail: no alcohol, no Russians.

Guess which one he violates?
Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was ghostwriting an op-ed while out on bail last month with a Russian who has ties to the Russian intelligence service, Justice Department Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team said Monday.

In a new filing Monday afternoon, Mueller's investigators said Manafort was working on an editorial in English as late as last Thursday and that it related to his political work for Ukraine, which factored into his money-laundering and foreign lobbying criminal charges.
The filing asks for the court to revisit a bail agreement Mueller's office and Manafort's lawyers made jointly last week.
If only he was a child molester, then he'd just have to be a Republican Senator.
We've been through his, the guys said this wasn't news.

I found this extremely interesting. Mueller acts like my middle school principal who was determined to find out who was responsible for the snow ball rebellion of 1994.
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"political work for Ukraine"

Last I check Ukraine and Russia are two entirely different nations who actually hate each other and are at war with one another.
"a Russian who has ties to the Russian intelligence service" but there's probably nothing to this whole Russia thing.

I mean sure, in under 6 months two Trump team, 1 very senior, have pled out as felons with no promise of lack of future charges ... but yeah, probably nothing to it.

FYI, in case you ever go to court, the dissembling works on Fox News and with your friends, but not with people who use facts and stuff like judges and juries.

At least according to disgraced General Flynn
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Gg you are in for a reality check here. You're asking the wrong thing.

Emails. Hillary would've been under an investigation by now.
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      12-06-2017, 12:17 PM   #8
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Gg you are in for a reality check here. You're asking the wrong thing.

Emails. Hillary would've been under an investigation by now.
Weeellll ... thing is, I'm fairly certain that Hillary did commit a crime, and the investigation and conclusions of her case should be reviewed if only to clear up any doubt.

But

(a.) that has zero to Trump. "but others committed other crimes" is not a defense

(b.) Mismanaged email servers are a far cry from colluding with a foreign power like Gen Flynn did and likely all of Trump's senior team. That's like comparing stepping on someone's toe to a serial killer, but technically they're both assault.

(c.) Hillary's servers were not attacking the very foundation of our government, democracy, and the institutions that have kept global peace for 75 years like Freedom of the Press, an independent judiciary, free and fair elections, and a common set of facts.
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Weeellll ... thing is, I'm fairly certain that Hillary did commit a crime, and the investigation and conclusions of her case should be reviewed if only to clear up any doubt.

But

(a.) that has zero to Trump. "but others committed other crimes" is not a defense

(b.) Mismanaged email servers are a far cry from colluding with a foreign power like Gen Flynn did and likely all of Trump's senior team. That's like comparing stepping on someone's toe to a serial killer, but technically they're both assault.

(c.) Hillary's servers were not attacking the very foundation of our government, democracy, and the institutions that have kept global peace for 75 years like Freedom of the Press, an independent judiciary, free and fair elections, and a common set of facts.
I wasn't a big hrc fan and i agree, those should be looked in to.

Welcome to the real ot. Here only the emails and uranium transported to Russia matters.
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      12-06-2017, 12:34 PM   #10
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Weeellll ... thing is, I'm fairly certain that Hillary did commit a crime, and the investigation and conclusions of her case should be reviewed if only to clear up any doubt.

But

(a.) that has zero to Trump. "but others committed other crimes" is not a defense

(b.) Mismanaged email servers are a far cry from colluding with a foreign power like Gen Flynn did and likely all of Trump's senior team. That's like comparing stepping on someone's toe to a serial killer, but technically they're both assault.

(c.) Hillary's servers were not attacking the very foundation of our government, democracy, and the institutions that have kept global peace for 75 years like Freedom of the Press, an independent judiciary, free and fair elections, and a common set of facts.
No evidence that Trump campaign contacted Russia prior to getting elected.
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No evidence that Trump campaign contacted Russia prior to getting elected.
Except the meetings in trump tower, twitter pm's and a few other things.

Come the fuck on, if these were connections to Canada, we could just ask the Canadians.
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No evidence that Trump campaign contacted Russia prior to getting elected.
And when there is, then you'll abandon your Trump theology?
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And when there is, then you'll abandon your Trump theology?
Oh come on, we all know that if Mueller had anything it would have leaked by now and the fact that there have not been leaks demonstrates that there's no fire to go with all this smoke.
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I wasn't a big hrc fan and i agree, those should be looked in to.

Welcome to the real ot. Here only the emails and uranium transported to Russia matters.
It's not just here, Lups! It works in the real world too. I successfully used this line of thinking to get out of a speeding ticket just last week:

Officer: I clocked you at 130 MPH in a 20 MPH school zone while texting. What do you have to say for yourself?

DETroadster: Yes but compared with HRC's criminal uranium powered email server cover up, this is nothing. Besides, shes actually from an alien lizard race. Lock her up. Benghazi! #MAGA.

Officer: Have a nice day, sir.
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It's not just here, Lups! It works in the real world too. I successfully used this line of thinking to get out of a speeding ticket just last week:

Officer: I clocked you at 130 MPH in a 20 MPH school zone while texting. What do you have to say for yourself?

DETroadster: Yes but compared with HRC's criminal uranium powered email server cover up, this is nothing. Besides, shes actually from an alien lizard race. Lock her up. Benghazi! #MAGA.

Officer: Have a nice day, sir.
Lol. I have gotten a waiver in Seattle for doing 69 on a school zone. In my case, i actually did it on purpose. I can drive fast while kids are around if drivers have to pay attention and to teach pedestrians too.

The lizard thing.

Hey find ssott from my side of this forum. You'll like my local friends in Seattle.
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It's not just here, Lups! It works in the real world too. I successfully used this line of thinking to get out of a speeding ticket just last week:

Officer: I clocked you at 130 MPH in a 20 MPH school zone while texting. What do you have to say for yourself?

DETroadster: Yes but compared with HRC's criminal uranium powered email server cover up, this is nothing. Besides, shes actually from an alien lizard race. Lock her up. Benghazi! #MAGA.

Officer: Have a nice day, sir.
It was NOT uranium powered. That's ridiculous!!
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That's not what I heard...
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Oh no, now the damn mean need papers say hicks was a target for the Russians, but she also was repeatedly warned by the FBI.

I think the Russians were trying hard. And that the FBI actually works for the USA.
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The Cold War has been over for a while, there are no 'reds under your beds'.
Surely It's far better for Mr Trump & America to be 'talking' to the Russians rather than continually fighting proxy wars with them, or worse still actually going to war with the Russians...right?
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The Cold War has been over for a while, there are no 'reds under your beds'.
Surely It's far better for Mr Trump & America to be 'talking' to the Russians rather than continually fighting proxy wars with them, or worse still actually going to war with the Russians...right?
You severely lack the knowledge of just how devious the russians are.

The only thing the Russian oligarchy cares about is sowing chaos and enriching the Russian elite
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