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      06-13-2017, 11:21 AM   #683
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The dumbass in Portland was a Bernie supporter, go research it outside of the liberal media.
I actually didn't research it at all, just saw the headline and rolled my eyes.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised since it is Portland.
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      06-13-2017, 11:25 AM   #684
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1) We don't know if Trump is really a billionaire because he didn't release his taxes. One of possible reasons he withheld his taxes is because he IS NOT a billionaire.

2) Trump got a loan from his daddy and his daddy was also calling the shots from behind the scenes. Plus the real estate was booming back then. Under such circumstances it was hardly an accomplishment to do well financially (Trump still managed to lose 800 million in one year which actually WAS an accomplishment albeit retarded one).

3) Trump was an asshole who screwed people over again and again. That's how he made his fortune. Again, not an accomplishment except maybe for his core supporters: dumb assholes who aspire to be just like him so they can lord over people while wallowing in their own selfishness and greed.
I kind of wonder why Trump does not release his tax returns if he has nothing to hide. I understand the concept of giving away some privacy, but at this point if it was me and I really had nothing to hide, I would release them so I could say, "see, nothing there...what are you guys going to say now."

With completely clean returns he would get a leg up and firepower and for sacrificing privacy would be worth the questions following him now.
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I kind of wonder why Trump does not release his tax returns if he has nothing to hide. I understand the concept of giving away some privacy, but at this point if it was me and I really had nothing to hide, I would release them so I could say, "see, nothing there...what are you guys going to say now."

With completely clean returns he would get a leg up and firepower and for sacrificing privacy would be worth the questions following him now.
Yeah he's not like most politicians, he's even more secretive.

I can definitely see the appeal among his base.
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      06-13-2017, 12:12 PM   #686
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I kind of wonder why Trump does not release his tax returns if he has nothing to hide. I understand the concept of giving away some privacy, but at this point if it was me and I really had nothing to hide, I would release them so I could say, "see, nothing there...what are you guys going to say now."

With completely clean returns he would get a leg up and firepower and for sacrificing privacy would be worth the questions following him now.
If I were in his shoes and didnt have any legal obligation to release the returns I wouldnt......

Why should he?

Its an added bonus that it drives lefties batshit crazy.

Why did Obama take several years to release any information regarding his birth certificate?
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If I were in his shoes and didnt have any legal obligation to release the returns I wouldnt......

Why should he?
Surely you'd of said the same thing if Hillary withheld those since you eat up those right wing conspiracy theories.

Anyway, I don't care too much as to why he wouldn't release them. Just told me how untrustworthy he is and that he's probably hiding something, nothing I didn't already know before. That he's a fragile snowflake who probably would've gotten upset once people found out he's likely income poor and asset rich.

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Why did Obama take several years to release any information regarding his birth certificate?
Because it's a waste of time to indulge a bunch of right wing conspiracy idiots, but he finally released it anyway and guess what? Said right wing conspiracy idiots thought those were fake too.
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Surely you'd of said the same thing if Hillary withheld those since you eat up those right wing conspiracy theories.

Anyway, I don't care too much as to why he wouldn't release them. Just told me how untrustworthy he is and that he's probably hiding something, nothing I didn't already know before.



Because it's a waste of time to indulge a bunch of right wing conspiracy idiots, but he finally released it anyway and guess what? Said right wing conspiracy idiots thought those were fake too.
Actually the same applies.....if she's not required to make something public then why would the rest of us get all twisted up like you libbies do?
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Actually the same applies.....if she's not required to make something public then why would the rest of us get all twisted up like you libbies do?
Lol oh you'd become furious, but it's amusing that you'd think otherwise.
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If I were in his shoes and didnt have any legal obligation to release the returns I wouldnt......

Why should he?

Its an added bonus that it drives lefties batshit crazy.

Why did Obama take several years to release any information regarding his birth certificate?
So, you don't think if these returns are clean that it wouldn't be better off to release them and clean a lot of shit up and get a lot of people off your back? Whatever happened to getting on with business and getting things done? Despite the attack from the left he has some power to push back but he doesn't want to.
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So, you don't think if these returns are clean that it wouldn't be better off to release them and clean a lot of shit up and get a lot of people off your back? Whatever happened to getting on with business and getting things done? Despite the attack from the left he has some power to push back but he doesn't want to.
I dont think I really care about his returns nor do I think its relevant or should it be public

The fact of the matter is that the guy has had the IRS up his arse every year he's filed apparently with no issue.

Lets be frank about his returns.....the only reason that the left wants copies to to try to stir up drama where none exists just like the so called russia hacked our election which morphed into trump collusion which has been disproven and now is some varient of that shenanigan

Its all a distraction.....which is what that rediculous case the Md/DC AG's filed yesterday is all about.....their only hope is that in discovery they will get their hands on trump's tax returns

Simple fact of the matter is that Trump's businesses are not under his control while he's president....and the allegations are absurd
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Lol oh you'd become furious, but it's amusing that you'd think otherwise.
Keep that overactive imagination going.....

Go back to day drinking at Carpool with the rest of the children

the adults are having a conversation
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Keep that overactive imagination going.....

Go back to day drinking at Carpool with the rest of the children

the adults are having a conversation
That place finally closed fairly recently.

The thought of you capable of having an "adult" conversation will probably be the funniest thing I'll read all day.
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I dont think I really care about his returns nor do I think its relevant or should it be public
They are relevant based on the accusations being levied. If you are charged with a crime and even if there is lack of evidence but you have evidence that further disproves the allegation you would show it to weaken the case further. Or would you be so arrogant and naive to say, "fuck you guys--keep pestering me?"
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You're right - Trump is a clueless moron, who happened to make himself into a billionaire.

As opposed to Obama, who made himself into... a Community Organizer?
1) We don't know if Trump is really a billionaire because he didn't release his taxes. One of possible reasons he withheld his taxes is because he IS NOT a billionaire.

2) Trump got a loan from his daddy and his daddy was also calling the shots from behind the scenes. Plus the real estate was booming back then. Under such circumstances it was hardly an accomplishment to do well financially (Trump still managed to lose 800 million in one year which actually WAS an accomplishment albeit retarded one).

3) Trump was an asshole who screwed people over again and again. That's how he made his fortune. Again, not an accomplishment except maybe for his core supporters: dumb assholes who aspire to be just like him so they can lord over people while wallowing in their own selfishness and greed.
1. Tax returns don't make you list assets.

2. Whatever.... if he developed cold fusion you'd still bitch.

3. Apply that same logic to Harry Reid, for example.

Glad Trump isn't a pushover - I'd hate to see us do stupid things like give Iran billions, because our president was a pansy.
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They are relevant based on the accusations being levied. If you are charged with a crime and even if there is lack of evidence but you have evidence that further disproves the allegation you would show it to weaken the case further. Or would you be so arrogant and naive to say, "fuck you guys--keep pestering me?"
When was Trump charged with a crime? I must have missed something.
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When was Trump charged with a crime? I must have missed something.
That was an example situation... its why I said, " if you were charged...." instead of Trump is charged. Maybe a better way to word it would have been, " If authorities were considering a charge..."
Sorry if that was unclear.
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They are relevant based on the accusations being levied. If you are charged with a crime and even if there is lack of evidence but you have evidence that further disproves the allegation you would show it to weaken the case further. Or would you be so arrogant and naive to say, "fuck you guys--keep pestering me?"
Folks can accuse all they want but until there's evidence of an actual crime this is all shenanigans and fantasy for liberals

This tax return BS has been since before trump was every nominated to be the GOP candidate....so lets be honest.....the justification keeps shifting.....but liberals just want tax returns to try to come up with a never ending line of false issues.....like "OMG.....some foreigner stayed in a trump hotel.....they MUST be trying to curry favor with trump....."
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1) We don't know if Trump is really a billionaire because he didn't release his taxes. One of possible reasons he withheld his taxes is because he IS NOT a billionaire.

2) Trump got a loan from his daddy and his daddy was also calling the shots from behind the scenes. Plus the real estate was booming back then. Under such circumstances it was hardly an accomplishment to do well financially (Trump still managed to lose 800 million in one year which actually WAS an accomplishment albeit retarded one).

3) Trump was an asshole who screwed people over again and again. That's how he made his fortune. Again, not an accomplishment except maybe for his core supporters: dumb assholes who aspire to be just like him so they can lord over people while wallowing in their own selfishness and greed.
We have a leader who's resume boasts ex drama/snowboard teacher, has a room temperature IQ, and never accomplished a SINGLE thing in private life other than having a semi recognizable last name. I find the bleating of Canadians about Trump to be exceptionally annoying and pretentious.
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Haters continue to hate.

At least get the facts straight before you hate, but haters don't do that I guess
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In so far as lefties in the US are trying to bring large numbers of the same folks into the US?

Yes

The problem is and always has been assimilation

When large numbers of a culture are allowed into a country and not forced to assimilate and instead allowed to set up large largely isolated communities governed by same failed laws/etc that they left then it will fail

Sweden has allowed on the order of 30% of their population in the last 30 or so years to come from outside cultures that dont share their values

The failed outcome is easily predicted


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UFB

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a6810311.html

What it shows is that Sweden is rapidly demonstrating the effects of inviting 1/3 of its population in from cultures that dont share its values....simple things like equality, peace, etc

Sweden is the quintessential example of the abject failure of multiculturalism



Wow... really. Wow..
That you are the one who said that I went full retard is.... interesting.. let's leave it at that.

You are actually trying to argue that the idea of multiculturalism is dead and buried because one country has taken in hundreds of thousands of refugees from active war zones, the vast majority of them doesn't have a home to call their own, many came without their parents, almost all of them have no job, they haven't been integrated into society in a way that is preferred whatsoever just because of the sheer number of people that have come in. (I guess we should have let them die instead)
It's a new country, new culture, new language, new everything.

All of this over an extremely short period of time, yet you find this to be "the quintessential example of the abject failure of multiculturalism".
The icing on the cake is how you (apart from living in what's arguably the most multicultural country on the planet) somehow are trying to attribute the 30 years of taking in people from other cultures to the shit you've been accusing the current immigrants of doing over the last couple of years.. I mean.. WHAT?
This is more of a retorical question but how exactly are the 2nd and 3rd generation of immigrants putting Sweden in the toilet? Do you have any links for that?

I'm sorry but that has got to be one of the most stupid things I've ever read in my entire life.
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"Racists" are white Christians? Only white Christians? Got it.
No. Context matters here.
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I'm sorry but that has got to be one of the most stupid things I've ever read in my entire life.
Don't worry. He'll top that in mere days.
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If the world was this simple, then your simple solutions would be on the lips of every rational man and woman on this earth. But it's not, is it?

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