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      03-25-2019, 09:44 AM   #3675
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I bet had crooked Hillary won, Manafort would not be in jail.

That's wrong and i'm not a fan of the guy.
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      03-25-2019, 09:46 AM   #3676
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If your Aunt had balls, she'd be your Uncle.

In this liberal age not necessarily amigo...
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      03-25-2019, 09:49 AM   #3677
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      03-25-2019, 09:55 AM   #3678
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Yup, that is certainly how you would see it.
How would any reasonable person not see it that way?

Why do you think I don't care for Trump? I voted for 1 democrat (for a house race, in 1986) in 15 national elections over 30 years. Though i never vote straight ticket, I vote overwhelmingly for Republicans. Why wouldn't I be a fan of Trump?

Because of what he says and does. It transcends party.
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      03-25-2019, 09:58 AM   #3679
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      03-25-2019, 10:02 AM   #3680
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Good. See how generalizations aren't all that accurate?

I'm trying to make a point here that seems gone over the poster who I originally responded to.

Because no, I don't think all Republicans would rather be Russian than a Democrat nor do I think they want Trump to be a dictator but when some posters make outlandish claims about the Democrats (about something from 50-60 years ago?), it's just as easy to find glaring examples of the current state of the other party as well.
Just go over all the dumb shit the dems and libs pulled this year alone. No need to go back 60 years you guys make this way too easy.
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      03-25-2019, 10:18 AM   #3681
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Good. See how generalizations aren't all that accurate?

I'm trying to make a point here that seems gone over the poster who I originally responded to.

Because no, I don't think all Republicans would rather be Russian than a Democrat nor do I think they want Trump to be a dictator but when some posters make outlandish claims about the Democrats (about something from 50-60 years ago?), it's just as easy to find glaring examples of the current state of the other party as well.
Thats fair, I probably missed the context of that. From my POV, what you posted made no sense. But I can see the point you were trying to make now. Certainly agree.
that context can be found at the top of page 167: I was responding to Jockey's comment "....because Russia has been trying to take down our democracy for a long, long time." I agreed saying that there was a time when the Left vigorously defended Americans who were a part of those conspiracies, and continued to do so for decades even after the guilt of those individuals was proven, in many cases by the Russians themselves. The point, of course, being that Russophobia is a suspiciously recent phenomenon on the Left.
Jockey's response was to post a pic of two random guys at a political rally, declaring them to be equivalent.
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      03-25-2019, 10:23 AM   #3682
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that context can be found at the top of page 167: I was responding to Jockey's comment "....because Russia has been trying to take down our democracy for a long, long time." I agreed saying that there was a time when the Left vigorously defended Americans who were a part of those conspiracies, and continued to do so for decades even after the guilt of those individuals was proven, in many cases by the Russians themselves. The point, of course, being that Russophobia is a suspiciously recent phenomenon on the Left.
Jockey's response was to post a pic of two random guys at a political rally, declaring them to be equivalent.
Jockey is SumBMWguy lite.
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      03-25-2019, 10:28 AM   #3683
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Good. See how generalizations aren't all that accurate?

I'm trying to make a point here that seems gone over the poster who I originally responded to.

Because no, I don't think all Republicans would rather be Russian than a Democrat nor do I think they want Trump to be a dictator but when some posters make outlandish claims about the Democrats (about something from 50-60 years ago?), it's just as easy to find glaring examples of the current state of the other party as well.
Thats fair, I probably missed the context of that. From my POV, what you posted made no sense. But I can see the point you were trying to make now. Certainly agree.
that context can be found at the top of page 167: I was responding to Jockey's comment "....because Russia has been trying to take down our democracy for a long, long time." I agreed saying that there was a time when the Left vigorously defended Americans who were a part of those conspiracies, and continued to do so for decades even after the guilt of those individuals was proven, in many cases by the Russians themselves. The point, of course, being that Russophobia is a suspiciously recent phenomenon on the Left.
Jockey's response was to post a pic of two random guys at a political rally, declaring them to be equivalent.
If that's still what you got out of my post after all the subsequent posts I've made, I don't know what to tell you.

Continue to make absurd generalizations
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You know there is something seriously wrong with the main stream media and the Democrats, when they are mad that the president of the United states did not collude with a foreign state.
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I'm no lawyer, but I don't follow the logic there. They're saying that you can't try to impede an investigation if you didn't actually commit the crime the investigation is centered around? That's demonstrably false.
Impede? Wrong language. Obstruction of justice was the point at hand.
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You know there is something seriously wrong with the main stream media and the Democrats, when they are mad that the president of the United states did not collude with a foreign state.
For you "mad" means "reporting".

I see how Trumpster language works now.......
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      03-25-2019, 11:01 AM   #3687
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that context can be found at the top of page 167: I was responding to Jockey's comment "....because Russia has been trying to take down our democracy for a long, long time." I agreed saying that there was a time when the Left vigorously defended Americans who were a part of those conspiracies, and continued to do so for decades even after the guilt of those individuals was proven, in many cases by the Russians themselves. The point, of course, being that Russophobia is a suspiciously recent phenomenon on the Left.
Jockey's response was to post a pic of two random guys at a political rally, declaring them to be equivalent.
Republicans have had not so good moments also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism
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      03-25-2019, 11:03 AM   #3688
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For you "mad" means "reporting".

I see how Trumpster language works now.......
You've been dead wrong for over a year. For you to judge anyone else is laughable.
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      03-25-2019, 11:05 AM   #3689
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You've been dead wrong for over a year. For you to judge anyone else is laughable.
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You still haven't come to my point of view, so though you argue well and make good points, I can't agree with you, and discount all your good factual points.



When will this be available on google translate?
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      03-25-2019, 11:10 AM   #3690
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Well, let's say you were an FBI agent and you were investigating me. Clearly you and I disagree politically, and clearly you're a biased Trump lover.

So should I conclude, because you're biased, that:

(a.) You're unethical and incapable of being a professional, or

(b.) Despite your bias, I can trust you to be a professional.

I'd trust you, and I don't find you different than any of the FBI agents you claim were "busted".

Your belief that Trump is the victim of an FBI conspiracy that protected his campaign and got him elected President borders on laughable - nope, is laughable - and is a strike against your trustworthiness ... because people so distrusting of career professionals were/are probably dirty themselves.

At least that's been my experience.
An oldie but a goodie.
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      03-25-2019, 11:19 AM   #3691
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Atta boy Clapper!

Your buddy John should listen...

Joe diGenova: John Brennan Should Get A Good Lawyer, Not A Good Ghostwriter
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...od_lawyer.html

My, my, my. It's going to be bloody.

Former U.S. attorney Joe diGenova told FNC's Tucker Carlson Thursday night that there was an effort to frame Trump and that high-level members of the FBI and Justice Department were involved, including former CIA Director John Brennan.



Another oldie but a goodie. Quite a stroll down memory lane here.

What happend to this? Another conspiracy theory down the drain?
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An oldie but a goodie.
Yep, it is an oldie.
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I]These tweets do not sound like someone who is innocent . These tweets sound stupid and irrational. And they are full of lies.

"There is no Collusion! The Robert Mueller Rigged Witch Hunt, headed now by 17 (increased from 13, including an Obama White House lawyer) Angry Democrats, was started by a fraudulent Dossier, paid for by Crooked Hillary and the DNC. Therefore, the Witch Hunt is an illegal Scam!" Trump tweeted Sunday.

"Is Robert Mueller ever going to release his conflicts of interest with respect to President Trump, including the fact that we had a very nasty & contentious business relationship, I turned him down to head the FBI (one day before appointment as S.C.) & Comey is his close friend," Trump said in a second tweet.

"...Also, why is Mueller only appointing Angry Dems, some of whom have worked for Crooked Hillary, others, including himself, have worked for Obama....And why isn't Mueller looking at all of the criminal activity & real Russian Collusion on the Democrats side-Podesta, Dossier?"
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This is great! How could 17 angry dems NOT charge Trump? SO many lies and distortions from the cheeto. Why would anyone possible think he is guilty after reading this.
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This is great! How could 17 angry dems NOT charge Trump? SO many lies and distortions from the cheeto. Why would anyone possible think he is guilty after reading this.


Now you're arguing with yourself!

This Mueller report has been hard on you.
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The IRS also had all of Manaforts returns. Clearly the IRS is not the end-all be-all when it comes to determining if someone is up to some funny business with their income and taxes.

My personal opinion is that Trump's returns and financial records likely show a host of shady dealings, some of which may not be legal. I think his financials read much like Manafort's. I have no proof of this, mind you. I cant back it up with anything other than a gut feeling. I think the sorts of people and associates that Trump surrounds himself with (Manafort, Gates, Stone, etc.) have all enjoyed a long history of skirting the system to their own personal enrichment.
I believe the tax returns and Trumps relation to Deutsche Bank are being looked at now. Why is trump so against releasing the tax returns, even now?
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One of the best parts about there being ZERO evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, was watching CNN last night. It was quite entertaining.

And now Trump wants to know why this investigation started in the first place. Damn good question! I'm sure there are a few people shaking in their boots right now.
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