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      10-17-2019, 02:09 PM   #1123
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He donated millions to Trump's inauguration fund. That's how he got the nod from Donald. And if Trump never nominated him he never would have gotten the job. It is a small point you're making.

It reads like it reads. I don't see lying and never said so. But his butt is being covered by his legal team for sure. If you want to call that weaseling go ahead. I did not.

I didn't call him a liar. I don't call everyone whose views do not align to mine liars. (I do not know what his views are so that would be a hard thing to do anyway.) Also didn't hear his testimony or that of any of the others.

I made an observation. You leapt to several inaccurate conclusions based on that. Pot/kettle.


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Seems to me that Sondland is singing a tune he hopes will get him out of the crosshairs. Other testimony has him deeply involved. His statement reads like "I did what I was told. I'm just a poor multimillionaire hotel magnate that Trump put into this role. What do I know about all this statecraft stuff."
Yes, his donations likely landed him the nominations. But his character landed him the confirmation. He was one of the few bipartisan confirmations of trumps entire presidency.

Your statement of "... Sondland is singing a tune" is insinuating that he is lying. You're also speculating that a legal team told him what to say. Theres no evidence of that. In fact, if you compare this to his many other speeches, they are worded in much the same manner. It doesn't take a linguistics genius to know they were written by a single person.

If you did not hear anyone elses testimonies, then why do you feel that you are qualified to say... "Other testimony has him deeply involved.". Again, I'd love to see this testimony you speak of.

Sorry, but I'm not the one jumping to inaccurate conclusions here.
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The Trump 2020 campaign is sitting on a war chest worth hundreds of millions of dollars. What happens to all that cash if he's impeached, drops out, or otherwise is not around for the 2020 election?
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Lets repost what you originally said, so no one is confused here.



Yes, his donations likely landed him the nominations. But his character landed him the confirmation. He was one of the few bipartisan confirmations of trumps entire presidency.

Your statement of "... Sondland is singing a tune" is insinuating that he is lying. You're also speculating that a legal team told him what to say. Theres no evidence of that. In fact, if you compare this to his many other speeches, they are worded in much the same manner. It doesn't take a linguistics genius to know they were written by a single person.

If you did not hear anyone elses testimonies, then why do you feel that you are qualified to say... "Other testimony has him deeply involved.". Again, I'd love to see this testimony you speak of.

Sorry, but I'm not the one jumping to inaccurate conclusions here.
Captain Blood Please help your fellow forum member wdb out. Can you please give a stern reprimand a solid source needs to be provided or it's all considered hersay.

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Do you think the right will run a candidate who was impeached by the House?

Any statement about Trump that starts with "Depending upon whether he can keep his mouth shut..." should end with "Ah, yeah, nevermind."
Of course - you don't think Bill Clinton would have ran again, had the impeachment happened in his first term? If no, I believe you are deluding yourself.
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Of course - you don't think Bill Clinton would have ran again, had the impeachment happened in his first term? If no, I believe you are deluding yourself.
I think Bill would have tried, yes. But it's not really the incumbent's choice, is it? I assume the party can choose to put another horse in the race. I really don't know, though. Honest question.
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The Trump 2020 campaign is sitting on a war chest worth hundreds of millions of dollars. What happens to all that cash if he's impeached, drops out, or otherwise is not around for the 2020 election?
Too bad it can't be donated to the Trump Foundation.............
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The Trump 2020 campaign is sitting on a war chest worth hundreds of millions of dollars. What happens to all that cash if he's impeached, drops out, or otherwise is not around for the 2020 election?
Dibs. Front seat too.
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The Trump 2020 campaign is sitting on a war chest worth hundreds of millions of dollars. What happens to all that cash if he's impeached, drops out, or otherwise is not around for the 2020 election?
I know what they WON'T do with the funds. Pay their debts. The inauguration still owes DC $7 million.
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Dibs. Front seat too.
Gonzo, how have you been? Seems like I haven't seen you around here for a while. Hope you've been well.
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I'm kinda surprised everyone is buying all the crap that Hunter is spewing. You guys do realize this guy is not as he seems?

1) He was an alleged cocaine addict. (https://www.scmp.com/news/world/arti...e-cocaine-test)

2) He was hooking up with his dead brothers widow, possibly while still married. (https://pagesix.com/2017/03/01/widow...in-law-hunter/)

3) He was a deadbeat, who couldnt pay his own bills due to his addictions. (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-divorce.html)
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Mick Mulvaney has acknowledged the Ukraine aid was quid pro quo for an investigation into the Biden's. It appears that WH has realized the house cards is crumbling, they can't control the fallout, and that people are going against WH direction not to testify in the impeachment investigation. They're all F'ed.
Totally false. Where do you get your news from? 20 second CNN clips? Mulvaney made it very clear he was referring to the current DOJ/Barr/Durham investigation into the DNC server and Crowdstrike and its relation to the 2016 election. Biden was not brought up at all by him even though the one female reporter after tried to spin it that way. Try watching the video yourself before posting such blatant falsehoods.

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Ukraine aid held up in part over election probe, White House says
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Totally false. Where do you get your news from? 20 second CNN clips? Mulvaney made it very clear he was referring to the current DOJ/Barr/Durham investigation into the DNC server and Crowdstrike and its relation to the 2016 election. Biden was not brought up at all by him even though the one female reporter after tried to spin it that way. Try watching the video yourself before posting such blatant falsehoods.

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But......Biden sure was brought up in the phone call.
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I'm kinda surprised everyone is buying all the crap that Hunter is spewing. You guys do realize this guy is not as he seems?

1) He was an alleged cocaine addict. (https://www.scmp.com/news/world/arti...e-cocaine-test)

2) He was hooking up with his dead brothers widow, possibly while still married. (https://pagesix.com/2017/03/01/widow...in-law-hunter/)

3) He was a deadbeat, who couldnt pay his own bills due to his addictions. (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-divorce.html)
Well that does it! NO WAY I'm voting Hunter Biden for President. What a schmuck.
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Gonzo, how have you been? Seems like I haven't seen you around here for a while. Hope you've been well.
Very well, thank you. Can't take all the noise so I refrain from hanging around here as much. Just had a coffee and some chocolate chip cookies and had a hankering to look back in before happy hour.
I hope you and wifey are also very well.
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Mick Mulvaney has acknowledged the Ukraine aid was quid pro quo for an investigation into the Biden's. It appears that WH has realized the house cards is crumbling, they can't control the fallout, and that people are going against WH direction not to testify in the impeachment investigation. They're all F'ed.
I'm sorry, but I can't find this anywhere.
Source?

Just saw this...
CNN Manager: CNN Stopped Covering News, Sold Itself To The Devil, And Became The Trump Network.

Reeeeee!
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If the Republicans kick out Trump their chances of winning in 2020 are almost nothing like 10% chance of winning. Shock the gay away Pence? He has the stink of Trump all over him.

I think you are delusional if you think McConnell may want to fast track an impeachment vote. it would be damning for the party, cause in fighting, makes the republicans look weak and divided. No way it happens going into an election year. It just not going to happen.

If this was 1st year of Trump? Sure maybe, I still don't think so but it would give them 3 years to recover. This would give them less than a calendar year.

The evidence would have to be so damning beyond a phone call with Ukraine.



Biden is done after his son's horrific interview:

ABC News’ Amy Robach asked Biden if he would have gotten the board position if he hadn’t been the son of the vice president: “I don’t know, I don’t know,” he said. “Probably not, in retrospect. But that’s—you know—I don’t think that there’s a lot of things that would have happened in my life if my last name wasn’t Biden.”

The cocaine addict who slept with his brother's wife before he was dead just tanked his father's presidency. He now has ZERO chance of being the nominee.



Warren is now #1.

Trump is going to walk all over Warren. She has lied too much about her upbringing. Lying that she was fired for being pregnant, lying about her father's profession, lying about her native american history, lying and stealing recipes to put into a native american cookbook called pow wow chow. The list goes on. She literally want to increase taxes on the middle class. That will go over well. Because the middle class wants more taxes.

If I was a liberal democrat I would hold on to impeachment too. It is literally the only thing you have left because you ran weak candidates and have gotten nothing done in congress for the last 3 years just being obstructionists.

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I can't believe people wast one breath of life responding to Captain Blood/RD/Schwartschild Radius. I would rather spend my time and energy licking a bathroom floor. To each his own.
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I can't believe people wast one breath of life responding to Captain Blood/RD/Schwartschild Radius. I would rather spend my time and energy licking a bathroom floor. To each his own.

Insulting people like you're 70 something idol Trump. Nice!
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It is kind of pointless as they reside in some fairy tale land where facts don't apply and they make up shit, please see: 'McConnell is going to push through the impeachment as fast as possible.' LOL. Yeah ok. If he wants to see his party be destroyed and die in a fire.
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I can't believe people wast one breath of life responding to Captain Blood/RD/Schwartschild Radius. I would rather spend my time and energy licking a bathroom floor. To each his own.
I long ago concluded trying to have a rational discussion with him was like trying to teach an elephant how to tie a pair of shoes. I rarely read or respond to any of his drivel much anymore.
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