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View Poll Results: Is the Biden Family corrupt and selling/benefiting from government influence?
Corrupt without question and benefitting from government influence. 60 82.19%
No...It's just Lunch Bucket Joe and a total coincidence. 13 17.81%
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      01-28-2020, 06:20 AM   #155
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Still waiting this evidence of corruption.
I thought Rudy was going to release it over the weekend?
Yeah he had touted his information on Fox News earlier in week. Where is his "bombshell"?

Not surprised that the same crowd that yells "innocent until proven guilty" has set their sites on former VP Biden with zero evidence they can point that proves their allegations. Typical trump cult behavior. Their integrity doesn't go very far.
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Still waiting this evidence of corruption.
I thought Rudy was going to release it over the weekend?
Yeah he had touted his information on Fox News earlier in week. Where is his "bombshell"?

Not surprised that the same crowd that yells "innocent until proven guilty" has set their sites on former VP Biden with zero evidence they can point that proves their allegations. Typical trump cult behavior. Their integrity doesn't go very far.
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In our discussion here? I missed it - can you point it out?





If you say so.




Get back to me when any of the Bidens break a law, in that case.

I'm not losing sleep over Ivanka's Chinese patents, Trump doubling the membership fees at Mar a Lago, the sweetheart bailout that Jared got for his 666 Fifth disaster, Nikki Haley's position on the Boeing board, etc, I certainly won't lose any sleep about Hunter's now-ended Board position.

-Ivanka's patents bother me from what little I've heard
-Doubling membership fees at a resort = BFD
-Jared bailout would probably bother me if in knew anything about it
-Haley on Boeing's board. She was gov of SC that has a Boeing facility (yea Board seat could be seen as a payback, but, at least she knows something about that company and the business. Hunter's knowledge of natural gas is probably from heating a crack pipe.)
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-Ivanka's patents bother me from what little I've heard
-Doubling membership fees at a resort = BFD
-Jared bailout would probably bother me if in knew anything about it
-Haley on Boeing's board. She was gov of SC that has a Boeing facility (yea Board seat could be seen as a payback, but, at least she knows something about that company and the business. Hunter's knowledge of natural gas is probably from heating a crack pipe.)
Seems we're mostly in agreement.

However, doubling membership fees at Mar a Lago immediately after winning the election seems a blatant example of personally profiting from a public position - the quintessential example of "corruption" as MK and I were defining it.

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Seems we're mostly in agreement.

However, doubling membership fees at Mar a Lago immediately after winning the election seems a blatant example of personally profiting from a public position - the quintessential example of "corruption" as MK and I were defining it.

Yea but it (the fees thing) is in full public view at least.

A tangent - but if the TDS wasn't so strong he'd catch a lot more misery from his (now) supporters. Kind of reminds of the Irish letting U-Boat crews come ashore for beer in Dublin. My enemy's enemy is my friend.
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Yea but it (the fees thing) is in full public view at least.

A tangent - but if the TDS wasn't so strong he'd catch a lot more misery from his (now) supporters. Kind of reminds of the Irish letting U-Boat crews come ashore for beer in Dublin. My enemy's enemy is my friend.
Small victories, eh? I agree, but the stuff the Bidens are accused of has all been in full public view, too.
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Small victories, eh? I agree, but the stuff the Bidens are accused of has all been in full public view, too.
Not really. We know the fees were raised, who raised them and why ($$). We don't know (yet) what Biden did for the money paid to Hunter. This will get discounted by the town fool on here, but, there was someone peddling a book on Fox (Levin's show) summarising the issues. If a fourth of what I heard was true, it is sickening. And I don't pretend for one minute that such a book couldn't be written about many on both sides of the political spectrum. But whataboutism isn't condoned on here so I'm focused on Joe.
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Not really. We know the fees were raised, who raised them and why ($$). We don't know (yet) what Biden did for the money paid to Hunter. This will get discounted by the town fool on here, but, there was someone peddling a book on Fox (Levin's show) summarising the issues. If a fourth of what I heard was true, it is sickening. And I don't pretend for one minute that such a book couldn't be written about many on both sides of the political spectrum. But whataboutism isn't condoned on here so I'm focused on Joe.
Well, I'm talking about activities that we actually know happened - like pressuring Ukraine for Shokin's removal or the money that Chinese investors put into Pradigm.

I'll not speculate on possible actions-that-are-as-yet-unknown, you're obviously free to do so, however.

I don't know that Jared wasn't giving the owners of Brookfield handjobs in the men's room to encourage their purchase of 666 Fifth, but it's completely unreasonable to speculate that he might have been. Right?

Same with Joe's possible actions to justify Hunter's Board position - even less so, actually, since seemingly unqualified Board members are hardly a novelty in the corporate world (see: Cofer Black on the Board of Burisma, as well).
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Well, I'm talking about activities that we actually know happened - like pressuring Ukraine for Shokin's removal or the money that Chinese investors put into Pradigm.

I'll not speculate on possible actions-that-are-as-yet-unknown, you're obviously free to do so, however.

I don't know that Jared wasn't giving the owners of Brookfield handjobs in the men's room to encourage their purchase of 666 Fifth, but it's completely unreasonable to speculate that he might have been. Right?

Same with Joe's possible actions to justify Hunter's Board position - even less so, actually, since seemingly unqualified Board members are hardly a novelty in the corporate world (see: Cofer Black on the Board of Burisma, as well).
Speculate away. We all are omnipotent on this board.
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Hunter's knowledge of natural gas is probably from heating a crack pipe.)
LOL. Good stuff, good stuff. No disagreement here. Good thing he was never appointed as an advisor to the President.
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LOL. Good stuff, good stuff. No disagreement here. Good thing he was never appointed as an advisor to the President.
Kushner......,

I can understand forcing a solution on the Palestinians, they won't like it, but maybe they can finally get some peace.

But then Kushner speaks up saying: The Palestinians will screw up if they don't except this.

Or something very close to that. Idiot!
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just imagine the outrage if he collected a salary for being an advisor
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just imagine the outrage if he collected a salary for being an advisor
That $180K or whatever advisors get paid pales in comparison to how he's profiting off his proximity to the Oval Office, count on that.
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Kushner......,

I can understand forcing a solution on the Palestinians, they won't like it, but maybe they can finally get some peace.

But then Kushner speaks up saying: The Palestinians will screw up if they don't except this.

Or something very close to that. Idiot!
It is highly likely that they will screw up. They had 97% of what they wanted back when Arafat was still alive. They screwed up and put vitriol before their children. How many have died since then?

Another gem from my fav political satirist. This is the most succinct and accurate description of what the hatred of Israel has done to the Palestinians and those that support their cause.
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It is highly likely that they will screw up. They had 97% of what they wanted back when Arafat was still alive. They screwed up and put vitriol before their children. How many have died since then?

Another gem from my fav political satirist. This is the most succinct and accurate description of what the hatred of Israel has done to the Palestinians and those that support their cause.
All the more reason for diplomats to not antagonize them if they are actually hoping for a deal, right?

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All the more reason for diplomats to not antagonize them if they are actually hoping for a deal, right?

Haven't we tried not antagonizing them before? How has THAT work out?
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just imagine the outrage if he collected a salary for being an advisor
It would be interesting to see what your four favorite news sites are. I've put mine out there many many many times. Quid pro quo.........
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Haven't we tried not antagonizing them before? How has THAT work out?
I'll take that as a "no", then?

We'll agree to disagree.

You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. If you're trying to put together a peace deal, antagonizing the wobbliest participant in said deal doesn't seem like a path to success. That's all I'm saying.
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I'll take that as a "no", then?

We'll agree to disagree.

You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. If you're trying to put together a peace deal, antagonizing the wobbliest participant in said deal doesn't seem like a path to success. That's all I'm saying.
I understand what you are saying and I agree, somewhat. It just seems like a fool's errand when you do the same thing over and over again. Didn't Einstein say something about this...?
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I understand what you are saying and I agree, somewhat. It just seems like a fool's errand when you do the same thing over and over again. Didn't Einstein say something about this...?
Hope springs eternal.

Einstein didn't say that, but somebody smart or important did....

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