[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

In black to match the trim, correct?

You already know my answer. 🤪
Definitely gloss black!!! 👍🏻

[jdf_nh]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Yes, when you have a tiny detuned 4 cylinder 20i, it makes sense. We get the top end of the range here even with the stronger 4 banger

It is amazing to me how much things have changed since my youth when all the best stuff stayed in Europe!

[StanDiego]

Originally Posted by jdf_nh

It is amazing to me how much things have changed since my youth when all the best stuff stayed in Europe!

Insurance costs, taxes, and regulations drive the market for smaller engines there as do petrol costs and emissions.

[boss2k]

Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

Those are not the gloss black. Look again at the edges compared to yours.

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Whats the difference? I agree it should say different for the 6MT

[IcewaterPete]

Personally, I think they’ve already gone too far with the badging. Having the M on there is ridiculous.

The beauty of a car like the Handschalter is that if you know you know. There’s more excitement in having to talk to the owner and ask if it’s a manual or having to walk up to the car in a parking lot and peering inside to spy the shifter. It’s more like unwrapping an amazing Christmas gift each time!

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by boss2k

Whats the difference? I agree it should say different for the 6MT

Originally Posted by IcewaterPete

Personally, I think they’ve already gone too far with the badging. Having the M on there is ridiculous.

The beauty of a car like the Handschalter is that if you know you know. There’s more excitement in having to talk to the owner and ask if it’s a manual or having to walk up to the car in a parking lot and peering inside to spy the shifter. It’s more like unwrapping an amazing Christmas gift each time!

Exactly, as long as all BMW's are being shipped with badges there is no reason why BMW shouldn't identify their “Edition Handschalter”.


If people want to debadge their cars that is their right.

On a Competition "M" car is says Competition on the rear badge in smaller letters. It could say Handschalter right underneath M40i on the rear badge.

[Rcasa20]

Originally Posted by boss2k

Whats the difference? I agree it should say different for the 6MT

The silver outline on the new from factory package.

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by Rcasa20

The silver outline on the new from factory package.

You need a magnifying glass to see that silver outline on the black badge. 👎🏻

[Horseman]

Originally Posted by Westside Guy

Why didn't BMW put a special rear badge on the Z4's that have the 6MT?

Cars with the Handschalter package could have a rear badge that says M40iH or M40iHS.

Here you go:

https://www.tiktok.com/@supreme.e21/...38031146650926

[BEAR-AvHistory-2]

Think Westside Guys solution is best for anyone wanting an 6MT identifier.

Personally I think its a very, very small percentage of people care one way or another if a car has a manual transmision.

The StingRay which had a 22% MT take rate was going to die when they dropped the stick with the C8. So what happened, 18 month waiting lists, Chevy adding shifts at the factory & they still have not caught up with the demand.

Even at the two BMW sites I use Z4/M4 the 8ZF/6MT debate goes round & round. BMW PCD & PDS have dropped the MT because the students were breaking them.

Have 3MT's currently none are BMW's & 3 BMW 6MT's in the past, but I am on the 8ZF side of the circle.

[Rcasa20]

Originally Posted by Westside Guy

You need a magnifying glass to see that silver outline on the black badge. 👎🏻

I didn’t make it. I was just replying.

[BMWGirlFL]

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by Rcasa20

The silver outline on the new from factory package.

Cool. At least we know who’s got the handschalter. Can also tell by the staggered wheels, unless someone opted out of course.

[amutti]

Is the M logo on the side on the European and Canadian models this different gloss black?

[Westside Guy]

Originally Posted by amutti

Is the M logo on the side on the European and Canadian models this different gloss black?

Good question!

[Rcasa20]

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory-2

Think Westside Guys solution is best for anyone wanting an 6MT identifier.

Personally I think its a very, very small percentage of people care one way or another if a car has a manual transmision.

The StingRay which had a 22% MT take rate was going to die when they dropped the stick with the C8. So what happened, 18 month waiting lists, Chevy adding shifts at the factory & they still have not caught up with the demand.

Even at the two BMW sites I use Z4/M4 the 8ZF/6MT debate goes round & round. BMW PCD & PDS have dropped the MT because the students were breaking them.

Have 3MT's currently none are BMW's & 3 BMW 6MT's in the past, but I am on the 8ZF side of the circle.

If the C8 was offered in a stick it’s likely I never would’ve found the Z4 and thus would have added to the waiting lists.

[BEAR-AvHistory-2]

Originally Posted by Rcasa20

If the C8 was offered in a stick it’s likely I never would’ve found the Z4 and thus would have added to the waiting lists.

Yeah I skipped the C8 because I wanted a 5 liter DOHC V8 not the warmed over 6.2 OHV. By the time they got to the DOHC V8 into production I had already bought the M4C 8ZF.

Had hopes for that as I was/am a StingRay fan. Drove a '67 435BHP 3X2 4MT Muncie StingRay Coupe for over 20 years. Was a regular commuter car Jersey Shore to Wall St.

[MisanoblueZ4]

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory-2

Yeah I skipped the C8 because I wanted a 5 liter DOHC V8 not the warmed over 6.2 OHV. By the time they got to the DOHC V8 into production I had already bought the M4C 8ZF.

Had hopes for that as I was/am a StingRay fan. Drove a '67 435BHP 3X2 4MT Muncie StingRay Coupe for over 20 years. Was a regular commuter car Jersey Shore to Wall St.

The more I see C8’s (thousands of them in Myrtle Beach it seems) the less I like. I’ve owned 2 C6’s so am a fan of Corvettes. But between the styling and complexity mixed with nightmare DCT issues…..I’m completely out on ever buying a C8.

Once I began looking for something it was Miata/F-Type/Z4 M40i. The Z4 seemed to be the Goldilocks with power, reliability, exclusivity, room, fun out of the cars I was considering. No regrets, would still love to drive a manual Z4 someday but the 8ZF has spoiled me too much to move on from it permanently.

[Rcasa20]

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

The more I see C8’s (thousands of them in Myrtle Beach it seems) the less I like. I’ve owned 2 C6’s so am a fan of Corvettes. But between the styling and complexity mixed with nightmare DCT issues…..I’m completely out on ever buying a C8.

Once I began looking for something it was Miata/F-Type/Z4 M40i. The Z4 seemed to be the Goldilocks with power, reliability, exclusivity, room, fun out of the cars I was considering. No regrets, would still love to drive a manual Z4 someday but the 8ZF has spoiled me too much to move on from it permanently.

I had a C7 stick that I kick myself for getting rid of. Because of a move I had to unload it so is what it is. Now looking forward to my Z4 stick!!!

[BEAR-AvHistory-2]

Its really funny what drives (no pun intended) the buying decision in a lot of cases. Had a lease running out on a 440 Coupe. Wanted to get a C8 but the potential lead times killed that.

Next thought was the then unreleased M4 Convertible. Saw a photo of #1 coming off the line. Picture of the Piggy killed that. Leased the Z4 to see what would happen over time.

Got to see & drive a M440 G series coupe at a pre release BMW AutoX event in Raleigh. Said whoa this is really nice & in a dark paint with the black trim the grill is no issue.

Decided I did not want to give up the Z4 so bought the lease out & Bought the M4C.

[Balr14]

I bought the Z4 because I missed my Porsche 997.2 and couldn't find a 991 I liked, within my budget. I was tempted by an Audi R8 Spyder, but we ended up $3000 apart. With the Z4 I got a warranty, which I would not have got with either a Porsche or Audi.

[BEAR-AvHistory-2]

Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

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Like the badge with the silver outline. Expect it would look real nice on my Black Sapphire paint.