BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BIMMERPOST Universal Forums General Automotive (non-BMW) Talk + Photos/Videos My new *MK8* Ford Fiesta ST

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-15-2018, 03:37 AM   #1
Just_me
Captain
151
Rep
657
Posts

Drives: RWD
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sweden

iTrader: (0)

My new *MK8* Ford Fiesta ST

Not coming to US?
Don't know what U're missing. Pocket rocket for a low price. Driven the car a couple of times now. What a noise coming from those 3-cylinders. Makes you happy




Appreciate 2
      11-15-2018, 11:09 AM   #2
SFCM3
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
1173
Rep
1,745
Posts

Drives: 2011.75 E90 M3 ZCP
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: San Francisco

iTrader: (3)

we barely got the Fiesta ST for what, 4 years over here. Coworker has one thats modified to Stage 3, fun little car.
__________________
I am never able to post pictures on forums, all my pics are on IG @baye30 https://www.instagram.com/baye30/
Current Garage - [2011 E90 M3 ZCP] [2005 E53 X5 3.0 Sport] [1988 E30 325IS 24V]
Appreciate 0
      11-15-2018, 07:06 PM   #3
86Zed
Get off my lawn
86Zed's Avatar
United_States
399
Rep
641
Posts

Drives: 6MT
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: USA

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
Wow, that new exterior design is a vast improvement. Fiesta ST is well lauded among enthusiasts as a bargain hoon!
Appreciate 1
seis-speed1223.00

      11-23-2018, 08:15 PM   #4
Gpfarrell
Second Lieutenant
39
Rep
216
Posts

Drives: 6MT Imperial Blue 550i M-sport
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pittsburgh

iTrader: (0)

I leased a ‘14 for a few years. It’s was well built, functional, and alarmingly entertaining!

Still miss it.
Appreciate 0
      11-25-2018, 09:13 PM   #5
P1et
Major General
P1et's Avatar
United_States
6146
Rep
9,209
Posts

Drives: my wife's cars
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Texas

iTrader: (1)

Did I just read 3-cylinders?
Appreciate 0
      11-26-2018, 07:14 AM   #6
10"
Major
10"'s Avatar
2261
Rep
1,431
Posts

Drives: orange BMW 1M.
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Brooklyn

iTrader: (0)

Looks so much better than the last version...shame the last one didn't sell too well in the US market.

3 cylinder engines sound awesome when they're tuned to! The Fiat 3 banger also sounds great. Still not as wonderful as the old Lancia V4 engines but not much can be as good as that!
__________________
don't read this. too late...
Appreciate 0
      11-26-2018, 07:37 AM   #7
Questofthetune
Captain
Questofthetune's Avatar
436
Rep
780
Posts

Drives: 13 GT50014 AW M235i(sold)
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: SFL

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2014 BMW 235i  [0.00]
I really like the fiesta ST a lot. I like the little mean eco hatchback look. Was really hoping to have one for a daily and something more fun like an R8 or viper for a sunny day type of thing. I hate the US market but love the prices..
Appreciate 0
      11-28-2018, 05:03 AM   #8
Just_me
Captain
151
Rep
657
Posts

Drives: RWD
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sweden

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by P1et View Post
Did I just read 3-cylinders?
yes but also feature a cylinder deactivation.

"In terms of efficiency, the EcoBoost engine features cylinder deactivation, first announced for the new 1.0 litre version. In its operation, fuel delivery and valve operation is paused for one of the engine’s three cylinders when the engine is under partial load conditions, such as when coasting or cruising under part-throttle. The single cylinder can be deactivated and brought back online in just 14 milliseconds."
Appreciate 0
      11-28-2018, 05:23 AM   #9
P1et
Major General
P1et's Avatar
United_States
6146
Rep
9,209
Posts

Drives: my wife's cars
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Texas

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Just_me View Post
yes but also feature a cylinder deactivation.

"In terms of efficiency, the EcoBoost engine features cylinder deactivation, first announced for the new 1.0 litre version. In its operation, fuel delivery and valve operation is paused for one of the engine’s three cylinders when the engine is under partial load conditions, such as when coasting or cruising under part-throttle. The single cylinder can be deactivated and brought back online in just 14 milliseconds."
So even worse: only two cylinders in some cases.
Appreciate 0
      11-28-2018, 08:30 AM   #10
Just_me
Captain
151
Rep
657
Posts

Drives: RWD
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sweden

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by P1et View Post
So even worse: only two cylinders in some cases.
Not worse. Sounds way better than my 4-cylinder ST MK7. Some says the car sounds like a M3 E46.
Appreciate 1
Viffermike1721.00

      11-28-2018, 04:09 PM   #11
Viffermike
Colonel
Viffermike's Avatar
United_States
1721
Rep
2,941
Posts

Drives: '18 black-n-blue 718 Cayman
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Big D

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by P1et View Post
So even worse: only two cylinders in some cases.
You must be one of those hoons who thinks V-twin sportbikes are forever and ever inferior to the inline fours that Japan puts out.

Strangely (sic), most pro motorcycle racers would vehemently disagree with you both about race suitability and sound.

Even more strange: the sound of a tuned Triumph, most of which use 3-potters.

Cylinder count does not matter. Engine design does.
__________________
--Life is a journey made more exciting with a fast car.--
--Helmets are for closers.--
<<Current: "Blackened" '18 NBM Porsche 718 Cayman ... Gone (but not forgotten): "Blackened" MG '15 228i M Sport w/aFe filter/scoop, Hertz drivers, P3Cars multigauge, other goodies>>
Appreciate 2
10"2261.00
Red Bread3400.50

      11-28-2018, 05:02 PM   #12
10"
Major
10"'s Avatar
2261
Rep
1,431
Posts

Drives: orange BMW 1M.
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Brooklyn

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viffermike View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by P1et View Post
So even worse: only two cylinders in some cases.
You must be one of those hoons who thinks V-twin sportbikes are forever and ever inferior to the inline fours that Japan puts out.

Strangely (sic), most pro motorcycle racers would vehemently disagree with you both about race suitability and sound.

Even more strange: the sound of a tuned Triumph, most of which use 3-potters.

Cylinder count does not matter. Engine design does.
Well said. Amazing how ignorant some people are...
__________________
don't read this. too late...
Appreciate 1
Viffermike1721.00

      11-28-2018, 08:48 PM   #13
Soterios
BXR
425
Rep
532
Posts

Drives: 2012 135i
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Missouri

iTrader: (0)

What do these things make, power wise? There's a guy near me that has a sizable front mount on his car.

I love the way they look.
__________________
2012 135i M Sport Alpine White
Appreciate 0
      11-29-2018, 01:18 AM   #14
Just_me
Captain
151
Rep
657
Posts

Drives: RWD
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sweden

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viffermike View Post
You must be one of those hoons who thinks V-twin sportbikes are forever and ever inferior to the inline fours that Japan puts out.

Strangely (sic), most pro motorcycle racers would vehemently disagree with you both about race suitability and sound.

Even more strange: the sound of a tuned Triumph, most of which use 3-potters.

Cylinder count does not matter. Engine design does.
Just like my Yamaha MT09. 3-cylinders as well
Appreciate 1
Viffermike1721.00

      11-29-2018, 01:19 AM   #15
Just_me
Captain
151
Rep
657
Posts

Drives: RWD
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sweden

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soterios View Post
What do these things make, power wise? There's a guy near me that has a sizable front mount on his car.

I love the way they look.
200 hp / 290 nm. Remember its a small FWD car.
More power isn't really needed, your driver license is still in danger
Appreciate 0
      11-29-2018, 02:36 AM   #16
P1et
Major General
P1et's Avatar
United_States
6146
Rep
9,209
Posts

Drives: my wife's cars
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Texas

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viffermike View Post
You must be one of those hoons who thinks V-twin sportbikes are forever and ever inferior to the inline fours that Japan puts out.

Strangely (sic), most pro motorcycle racers would vehemently disagree with you both about race suitability and sound.

Even more strange: the sound of a tuned Triumph, most of which use 3-potters.

Cylinder count does not matter. Engine design does.
Hold on. Are we talking scooters or cars?
Appreciate 0
      11-29-2018, 05:37 AM   #17
Just_me
Captain
151
Rep
657
Posts

Drives: RWD
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sweden

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by P1et View Post
Hold on. Are we talking scooters or cars?
What's the difference between 3-cylinders vs 4-cylinders, why is 4 better than 3? Why is more cylinders important?
Appreciate 0
      11-29-2018, 12:18 PM   #18
Viffermike
Colonel
Viffermike's Avatar
United_States
1721
Rep
2,941
Posts

Drives: '18 black-n-blue 718 Cayman
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Big D

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by P1et View Post
Hold on. Are we talking scooters or cars?
Riiiiight.

Hop on a tuned Speed Triple -- or, better yet, a 1299 Panigale R that puts out about 210 HP with two cylinders -- and tell me that it's a 'scooter'.

If you live.

My basic point: If the engine's efficient enough and designed well, cylinder count has no bearing on overall performance in this day and age. In fact, engines with too many cylinders can be a disadvantage for a variety of reasons, from excess weight and packaging issues to platform imbalance. Motorcycles merely demonstrate this via magnification of the effects.
__________________
--Life is a journey made more exciting with a fast car.--
--Helmets are for closers.--
<<Current: "Blackened" '18 NBM Porsche 718 Cayman ... Gone (but not forgotten): "Blackened" MG '15 228i M Sport w/aFe filter/scoop, Hertz drivers, P3Cars multigauge, other goodies>>
Appreciate 0
      11-29-2018, 12:26 PM   #19
Viffermike
Colonel
Viffermike's Avatar
United_States
1721
Rep
2,941
Posts

Drives: '18 black-n-blue 718 Cayman
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Big D

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Just_me View Post
What's the difference between 3-cylinders vs 4-cylinders, why is 4 better than 3? Why is more cylinders important?
In-line or opposed-cylinder four-cylinder engines often suffer from vibration issues on at least two axes because there is no firing order combination that can cancel out linear imbalance of combustion and related moments of inertia. V-four engines minimize this effect, but other issues (packaging, size, cooling) have kept V-fours at bay until recently.

Meanwhile, 3-cylinder engines generally are naturally balanced and inherently smoother because the central cylinder acts as a natural harmonic balancer. Two-cylinder designs often need to incorporate a so-called 'balance shaft' to keep inertial cylinder oscillation at bay.
__________________
--Life is a journey made more exciting with a fast car.--
--Helmets are for closers.--
<<Current: "Blackened" '18 NBM Porsche 718 Cayman ... Gone (but not forgotten): "Blackened" MG '15 228i M Sport w/aFe filter/scoop, Hertz drivers, P3Cars multigauge, other goodies>>
Appreciate 0
      11-29-2018, 12:32 PM   #20
P1et
Major General
P1et's Avatar
United_States
6146
Rep
9,209
Posts

Drives: my wife's cars
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Texas

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viffermike View Post
Riiiiight.

Hop on a tuned Speed Triple -- or, better yet, a 1299 Panigale R that puts out about 210 HP with two cylinders -- and tell me that it's a 'scooter'.

If you live.

My basic point: If the engine's efficient enough and designed well, cylinder count has no bearing on overall performance in this day and age. In fact, engines with too many cylinders can be a disadvantage for a variety of reasons, from excess weight and packaging issues to platform imbalance. Motorcycles merely demonstrate this via magnification of the effects.
I was asking because we shifted the conversation from a Ford Fiesta to motorcycles. I know absolutely nothing about motorcycles, so wasn't implying or assuming anything.
Appreciate 1
Viffermike1721.00

      11-29-2018, 12:58 PM   #21
SunnyD
Major
SunnyD's Avatar
United_States
344
Rep
1,183
Posts

Drives: M4 GTS
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Long Beach, CA

iTrader: (0)

I had a '16 FiST that I recently sold, but that was an amazing car. It's a shame we don't get the new generation here in the states.
__________________
'16 ///M4 GTS
'11.5 ///M3 ZCP | DCT - Gone
'06 ///M5 | SMG - Gone
'98 ///M3 | 5MT - Gone
'07 ///M Coupe | 6MT - Gone
Appreciate 0
      11-29-2018, 01:07 PM   #22
atmosphericM
Basic Bimmer
United_States
488
Rep
915
Posts

Drives: E92 328i 6MT ///M
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: B'ham

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Am I the only person ever that didn't like the Fiesta ST here in the states? I never understood why youtube reviewers, etc.. never mentioned the steering. I guess they just went into the test drive not expecting much from the steering? Whereas, when the 911 or F80 M3 switched to electric steering, that's all they'd talk about in the review. The electric steering on the Fiesta ST was garbage and that was the most boring and numb "sporty" car I've ever driven. Could you mod it out and hoon around and sling it across the road? Sure.. but the car had no soul and driver engagement/connection was severely lacking. The interior was also more basic and boring than a pumpkin-spiced latte sipping white girl in UGGs, but I'll forgive that on a car that costs sub-20k.

I was really disappointed because I was hoping the Fiesta ST was a good cheap alternative to a Civic SI. Unfortunately, not.. at least in my eyes.
__________________
Black Sapphire 328i ///M Sport Coupé
Save the Manuals!
Appreciate 1
este40.50

Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:57 AM.




bmw
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST