[iklo2]

What are the default headlights, if the upgrade is the LED? Why do I feel that this configurator offers only subpar components? No Nappa leather, no Laserlight...

[Argo]

Originally Posted by iklo2

What are the default headlights, if the upgrade is the LED? Why do I feel that this configurator offers only subpar components? No Nappa leather, no Laserlight...

The defaults are LEDs. What the Shadowline package lights add is the extra cornering bulb and the darker housing.

[tracer bullet]

Originally Posted by iklo2

No Nappa leather, no Laserlight...

It's been out a number of years, sells in very low volumes, and is on it's way out forever in another model year. No chance they are spending any development money putting new tech in it. We are incredibly lucky they actually bothered with the manual.

[iklo2]

Originally Posted by tracer bullet

It's been out a number of years, sells in very low volumes, and is on it's way out forever in another model year. No chance they are spending any development money putting new tech in it. We are incredibly lucky they actually bothered with the manual.

Agree. Though Nappa leather is hardly the cutting edge technology. I am not altogether complaining: for one thing it does not have that hideous iDrive 8.5. I would still prefer my olde 6wa cluster though.

[Flack]

The wireless charger was causing issues with iPhones at one point. Was this fixed? I am on the fence whether to get wireless charging.

[RigaTony1982]

Originally Posted by Flack

The wireless charger was causing issues with iPhones at one point. Was this fixed? I am on the fence whether to get wireless charging.

It’s fixed. They pushed an iOS update a few months back to address it.

[F87LUV]

Is the piping black or grey? It looks lighter on the cognac without the exclusive option.

[BEAR-AvHistory-2]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

I have the buckets in my M3 and highly doubt they would fit. Price is probably because they are in very short supply.

Don't see why not as not much more than an inch one way or another separates the three front seating positions.

Z4 M40i

Front head room 38.9 in.
Front leg room 42.2 in.
Front shoulder room 54.3 in.

Length 170.7 in.
Overall width with mirrors 79.7 in.
Overall width without mirrors 73.4 in.
Height 51.3 in.
Wheelbase 97.2 in.
Cargo capacity, 9.9 cu.ft.

M4C Convertible

Front Headroom 40.6 in
Front Leg Room 41.8 in
Front Shoulder Room 55.1 in

Length 189.1 in.
Overall width with mirrors 81.9 in.
Overall width without mirrors 74.3 in.
Height 54.9 in.
Wheelbase 112.5 in.
Cargo capacity, 9.0 cu.ft.

M3

Front Headroom (in.) 40.6
Front Legroom (in.) 41.6
Front Shoulder Room (in.) 56.0
Length, Overall (in.) 189.1
Width, Max w/o mirrors (in.)74.3
Height, Overall (in.)56.4
Wheelbase (in.) 112.5
Trunk Volume 13 cu. ft.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory-2

Don't see why not not much more than an inch separates the two front seating positions.

Z4 M40i

Front head room 38.9 in.
Front leg room 42.2 in.
Front shoulder room 54.3 in.

Length 170.7 in.
Overall width with mirrors 79.7 in.
Overall width without mirrors 73.4 in.
Height 51.3 in.
Wheelbase 97.2 in.
Cargo capacity, 9.9 cu.ft.

M4C Convertible

Front Seat Headroom 40.6 in
Front Seat Leg Room 41.8 in
Front Seat Shoulder Room 55.1 in

Length 189.1 in.
Overall width with mirrors 81.9 in.
Overall width without mirrors 74.3 in.
Height 54.9 in.
Wheelbase 112.5 in.
Cargo capacity, 9.0 cu.ft.

I’m judging subjectively based on the interior of my Z4 v M3. The side bolsters on the buckets jut out pretty far.

Measure the width of the bottom of your seat when you get a chance, and I’ll share my width of the buckets.

[Radius9876]

What are everyone's thoughts on the metallic green with shadow line? I’m in line to order the manual with my dealer, but shadow line is the only package I wasn’t planning on.

[tracer bullet]

Originally Posted by Radius9876

What are everyone's thoughts on the metallic green with shadow line?

My thought is that there's so much piano black on the car already, may as well finish the job (make all else black where it might otherwise be the dark gray).

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by tracer bullet

My thought is that there's so much piano black on the car already, may as well finish the job (make all else black where it might otherwise be the dark gray).

Is this a fluke with the configurator - shadowline includes the full adaptive LED headlights (that swivel)? Isn’t that already included?

If not, it’s a no brainer to add the shadowline pack. The additional black ties in but also requires a bit more PPF.

[amutti]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Is this a fluke with the configurator - shadowline includes the full adaptive LED headlights (that swivel)? Isn’t that already included?

If not, it’s a no brainer to add the shadowline pack. The additional black ties in but also requires a bit more PPF.

I love the Adaptive headlights on my convertible 2021 M240… the new manual Z4 pretty much sealed the deal on the move back to a new Z4. Meeting with the dealer on Wednesday to get on an allocation list!

[RigaTony1982]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Is this a fluke with the configurator - shadowline includes the full adaptive LED headlights (that swivel)? Isn’t that already included?

If not, it’s a no brainer to add the shadowline pack. The additional black ties in but also requires a bit more PPF.

They don't swivel. There's an additional bulb that illuminates when you put the turn signal on or turn the steering wheel past a certain angle, that then illuminates that direction.

The headlights themselves also have darker color inserts, to blend with the shadow line package.

IMO they are worth it.

Edit: Want to add, the standard headlights are also full LED, just don't include this extra bulb.

Edit #2: Also should add, if you're getting the manual it includes the mirror caps in black and the extended shadow line trim already. So to add the adaptive lights, it's only $550 (versus $950 on the automatic, because the package costs more).

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory-2

Don't see why not as not much more than an inch one way or another separates the three front seating positions.

Z4 M40i

Front head room 38.9 in.
Front leg room 42.2 in.
Front shoulder room 54.3 in.

Length 170.7 in.
Overall width with mirrors 79.7 in.
Overall width without mirrors 73.4 in.
Height 51.3 in.
Wheelbase 97.2 in.
Cargo capacity, 9.9 cu.ft.

M4C Convertible

Front Headroom 40.6 in
Front Leg Room 41.8 in
Front Shoulder Room 55.1 in

Length 189.1 in.
Overall width with mirrors 81.9 in.
Overall width without mirrors 74.3 in.
Height 54.9 in.
Wheelbase 112.5 in.
Cargo capacity, 9.0 cu.ft.

M3

Front Headroom (in.) 40.6
Front Legroom (in.) 41.6
Front Shoulder Room (in.) 56.0
Length, Overall (in.) 189.1
Width, Max w/o mirrors (in.)74.3
Height, Overall (in.)56.4
Wheelbase (in.) 112.5
Trunk Volume 13 cu. ft.

I measured the bucket seats in the M3: approx. 20” wide from bolster to bolster - another inch or two required for the electronic controls - and 33” tall as measured from the seatback bottom where it adjoins the bottom cushion to the top and at its lowest position about 37” from floor to the top of the seat. Unless you want the seat all the way on the floor vertically in its lowest position, may need another two inches of vertical in addition to the normal space for the bottom of the seat, so approx. 40” vertical.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by RigaTony1982

They don't swivel. There's an additional bulb that illuminates when you put the turn signal on or turn the steering wheel past a certain angle, that then illuminates that direction.

The headlights themselves also have darker color inserts, to blend with the shadow line package.

IMO they are worth it.

Edit: Want to add, the standard headlights are also full LED, just don't include this extra bulb.

Are you sure they didn’t change this for 2025? Why would it say they swivel if they don’t?

[RigaTony1982]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Are you sure they didn’t change this for 2025? Why would it say they swivel if they don’t?

It said the same thing in 2023 when I did my order, and also in the 2024 configurator. Can 100% confirm they don't swivel. Per the owner's manual:

Adaptive lighting functions

Principle
Adaptive lighting functions enable dynamic illumination of the road.

General information
The adaptive lighting functions may consist of one system or multiple systems, depending on the equipment version:

Cornering light.
Activating

Press the button on the light switch.

The LED in the button illuminates.

The adaptive lighting functions are active when the drive-ready state is switched on.

Cornering light

Principle
In tight curves, for instance on mountainous roads or when turning, an additional cornering light is switched on that illuminates the inside of the curve when the vehicle is moving below a certain speed.

General information
The cornering light is automatically switched on depending on the steering-wheel angle or, where applicable, the use of turn signals.

When driving in reverse, the cornering lights may be automatically switched on regardless of the steering-wheel angle.

[tracer bullet]

Originally Posted by RigaTony1982

Can 100% confirm they don't swivel.

Bummer. Thanks for the info here. Jeez even my 2011 135i headlights swivel, which is actually kind of nice at night through the neighborhood.

So, Z4 headlights... As I can gather:

1) They essentially have 1 (and only 1) actual projector, and 2 of what I'd want to refer to as "angel eyes" even they they are more half moon shaped.
2) It seems those latter lights, the angel eyes, light up as DRL's (daytime running lights)?
3) The single projector can do some interesting tricks regarding oncoming drivers and splitting the light, but this is only available in Europe. US laws haven't caught up to the tech and so we don't get these functions in the US. But they can potentially be coded in.
4) The Adaptive package gains you the black headlight interiors, if that's a goal for aesthetics.
5) Adaptive is somewhat mislabeled, since there's not really so much adaptive anything actually going on.
6) The adaptive package does however turn on something to illuminate to the sides? Do we know if this is some trickery out of the projector after all, or is it more like the DRL angel eyes are just given some extra brightness?

[RigaTony1982]

Originally Posted by tracer bullet

Bummer. Thanks for the info here. Jeez even my 2011 135i headlights swivel, which is actually kind of nice at night through the neighborhood.

So, Z4 headlights... As I can gather:

1) They essentially have 1 (and only 1) actual projector, and 2 of what I'd want to refer to as "angel eyes" even they they are more half moon shaped.
2) It seems those latter lights, the angel eyes, light up as DRL's (daytime running lights)?
3) The single projector can do some interesting tricks regarding oncoming drivers and splitting the light, but this is only available in Europe. US laws haven't caught up to the tech and so we don't get these functions in the US. But they can potentially be coded in.
4) The Adaptive package gains you the black headlight interiors, if that's a goal for aesthetics.
5) Adaptive is somewhat mislabeled, since there's not really so much adaptive anything actually going on.
6) The adaptive package does however turn on something to illuminate to the sides? Do we know if this is some trickery out of the projector after all, or is it more like the DRL angel eyes are just given some extra brightness?

This pretty much sums it up. In regards to #6, there’s an actual additional bulb, separate from the main headlight projector. I am going to go out in a bit, so I’ll try and grab some pictures of my lights and can show everyone exactly how they work.

[tracer bullet]

Originally Posted by RigaTony1982

This pretty much sums it up. In regards to #6, there’s an actual additional bulb, separate from the main headlight projector.

Interesting! I've been studying pictures and such but couldn't see anything. They do mention an additional lamp, but given the swiveling claims I was skeptical if the additional lamp was correct.

Originally Posted by RigaTony1982

I am going to go out in a bit, so I’ll try and grab some pictures of my lights and can show everyone exactly how they work.

That would be awesome! No rush at all of course. Both local dealers indicate no Z4 allocations and unsure when they might have them so I'm still just finalizing what I'd order. I'd probably go w/ the fancy $550 lights either way being black inside and if they offer any night-time improvement at all. But I'm all about over thinking things!

[BMWGirlFL]

[RigaTony1982]

Ok, hopefully this helps. Apologies for the not great pictures. Of course the sun is coming in right where I'm parked in my garage. Also, I don't have much room in front of the car to get farther away.

First picture is showing the headlights with just the two DRLs on.

Second picture is the low-beam headlight on, showing the single projector.

In the third picture, it is the same as #2, except in blue I've circled where the "adaptive" bulb is, showing it unlit.

Finally, in picture #4, I have the turn signal on. You can see (circled in blue) the additional bulb is now lit. In addition, that strip across the top of the headlight flashes orange. The timing of my picture was just such that it was in between blinks.