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      12-14-2021, 02:40 PM   #1
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Lexus Electric Hypercar Officially Teased With LFA Secret Sauce

It'll hit 62 mph (100 km/h) in the low two-second range.

Remember thy name – Lexus Electrified Sport. Toyota and its luxury division previewed today a bevy of EVs coming in the following years, with the most exciting of them all being a fully fledged Lexus-badged hypercar sans a combustion engine. The low-slung performance coupe looks absolutely dreamy and we're hoping most of the design will be carried over the production model.

Yes, this will evolve past the concept stage to hit the streets at some point in the future. The hypercar with its imposingly long hood and boomerang-shaped headlights has a prominent aerodynamic kit and bulging wheel arches housing wide tires. The swoopy roofline makes the Electrified Sport look fast even when standing still, while the wide rear end hosts interesting taillights reminding us of the Audi E-Tron GT.

As it's the case with the other electric concepts teased today, Lexus is not showing the hypercar's interior just yet. However, we do have some brief technical specifications to share. The LFA's spiritual successor will cover the sprint from 0 to 62 mph (100 km/h) in the low two-second range, thus allowing Lexus to go up against the likes of the Rimac Nevera and Tesla Model S Plaid.

It's being advertised with a maximum range of over 435 miles (700 kilometers), although neither Toyota nor Lexus is specifying the test cycle upon which this number is based. Interestingly, the two-seater Electrified Sport will be developed to support solid-state batteries. However, this will take a while since the two Japanese automakers have already announced to prioritize hybrids over EVs in terms of solid-state battery adoption.

Mentioning the LFA is not just speculation on our part considering Toyota's press release as well as head honcho Akyo Toyoda mentioned the naturally aspirated V10 machine: "Lexus will develop a next-generation battery EV sports car that inherits the driving taste, or the secret sauce, of the performance cultivated via the development of the LFA."

https://www.motor1.com/news/554398/l...-teaser-specs/




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Well one thing is for sure it certainly looks better than any Tesla.
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I wonder if they will use a sound for the "engine" a la Porsche Taycan.
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Looks like a Supra, McLaren and LFA had a threesome. I dig it
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I will believe it when I see it in production.
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The LFA's "secret sauce" was it's V10 and legendary exhaust note. I'm really not sure how this product will differentiate itself from other EV super cars. The LFA was a massive financial loss despite its unique redeeming qualities, so how will this EV successor fare any different?

Gotta drum up excitement for investors somehow I guess...
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I watched Doug DeMuro’s review of the new Rimac $2.5m electric hypercar and couldn’t help but think “why is this $2.5m when a model S plaid is $150k”….like what are you getting for $2.35m now? Nice leather and some carbon fiber? Every car will be 0-60 in 2 seconds soon enough. So how will these super/hyper EVs really set themselves apart?
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The LFA's "secret sauce" was it's V10 and legendary exhaust note. I'm really not sure how this product will differentiate itself from other EV super cars. The LFA was a massive financial loss despite its unique redeeming qualities, so how will this EV successor fare any different?

Gotta drum up excitement for investors somehow I guess...
Toyota has plenty of money for Akio's vanity project like this. To them, the benefit will be the good press and rep from the mass variety of car reviewers than on-paper gains. Finally, if anyone can make a car lose massive money yet wouldn't hurt their bottom line is Toyota accountants.

Although it does not launch without the much touted solid-state is disappointing, however, it wouldn't be the first time Toyota go back to the drawing board even if the car's about ready to production (LFA)
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The LFA's "secret sauce" was it's V10 and legendary exhaust note. I'm really not sure how this product will differentiate itself from other EV super cars. The LFA was a massive financial loss despite its unique redeeming qualities, so how will this EV successor fare any different?

Gotta drum up excitement for investors somehow I guess...
How will ANY electric vehicle, supercar or otherwise, differentiate itself in the future from other brands. It's going to come down to who hires the best designers. That's why I hate the direction of EV. There is nothing that the next guy/manufacturer can't do as well (again other than design).
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The LFA's "secret sauce" was it's V10 and legendary exhaust note. I'm really not sure how this product will differentiate itself from other EV super cars. The LFA was a massive financial loss despite its unique redeeming qualities, so how will this EV successor fare any different?

Gotta drum up excitement for investors somehow I guess...
How will ANY electric vehicle, supercar or otherwise, differentiate itself in the future from other brands. It's going to come down to who hires the best designers. That's why I hate the direction of EV. There is nothing that the next guy/manufacturer can't do as well (again other than design).
True, but there's also:

- performance
- handling
- feel
- quality
- luxury
- range
- recharging
- price
- technology

All of those (range vs consumption) are measurements shared with ICE cars.

For ICE there's also the sound and transmission (shift bangs and manual transmission).
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True, but there's also:

- performance
- handling
- feel
- quality
- luxury
- range
- recharging
- price
- technology

All of those (range vs consumption) are measurements shared with ICE cars.

For ICE there's also the sound and transmission (shift bangs and manual transmission).
Of course. I was referring to like vs like when it comes to the luxury brands. In my opinion performance will be very similar with every manufacturer unfortunately. I haven't seen anything to show that a "tune" of a battery electric motor will transform an EV the way it does with an ICE vehicle - the EV may get an OTA update that immediately makes it faster but what fun is that? (we've seen glimpses of it with Porsche and their 2 gear setup). Otherwise all of the other comparisons end up becoming the same thing we compare cell phones by...to me that's the problem. Suspension is an area where specific tuning could differ from car to car, but a big part of suspension geometry and how it works is based on engine design, location, and weight distribution. When you have a skateboard, any manufacturer can develop to achieve 50/50 weight balance.

Variations in engine design, transmission design, and how it's all engineered together is what gives ICE cars their soul (beating on old drum I know). But to me it's true. Do you really think in twenty years there will be enthusiasts wanting to buy an old Tesla Model 3 (nostalgia, collectible, or any other reason)? I don't see it. The same way people don't say hmm I really feel like going back to my roots and buying an iPhone 6 to use. They are going to be disposable way more so than current ICE cars, in my opinion.

There will be the innovators and first to market with new tech or better batteries, but that will only last long enough for full driving cars and then people won't car at all. It will just be a form of transportation and status symbol (luxury brands) again similar to a cell phone these days.
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Of course. I was referring to like vs like when it comes to the luxury brands. In my opinion performance will be very similar with every manufacturer unfortunately. I haven't seen anything to show that a "tune" of a battery electric motor will transform an EV the way it does with an ICE vehicle - the EV may get an OTA update that immediately makes it faster but what fun is that? (we've seen glimpses of it with Porsche and their 2 gear setup). Otherwise all of the other comparisons end up becoming the same thing we compare cell phones by...to me that's the problem. Suspension is an area where specific tuning could differ from car to car, but a big part of suspension geometry and how it works is based on engine design, location, and weight distribution. When you have a skateboard, any manufacturer can develop to achieve 50/50 weight balance.

Variations in engine design, transmission design, and how it's all engineered together is what gives ICE cars their soul (beating on old drum I know). But to me it's true. Do you really think in twenty years there will be enthusiasts wanting to buy an old Tesla Model 3 (nostalgia, collectible, or any other reason)? I don't see it. The same way people don't say hmm I really feel like going back to my roots and buying an iPhone 6 to use. They are going to be disposable way more so than current ICE cars, in my opinion.

There will be the innovators and first to market with new tech or better batteries, but that will only last long enough for full driving cars and then people won't car at all. It will just be a form of transportation and status symbol (luxury brands) again similar to a cell phone these days.
Agreed on all of this. Old battery tech is going to become obsolete so fast which is also going to brutally kill the value of EV's. At least I'll be able to get a Taycan Turbo S for $50k when everyone moves on to the next cool thing.
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Agreed on all of this. Old battery tech is going to become obsolete so fast which is also going to brutally kill the value of EV's. At least I'll be able to get a Taycan Turbo S for $50k when everyone moves on to the next cool thing.


I agree with this wholeheartedly, which is one of the other big reasons I can't get behind EV's. We've made some improvements with motors (See Koenigsegg's "fluxial" motors that they made) but for the most part batteries have continued to stay stagnant for many years. I look at the Rivian, and it's a pointless vehicle that is worthless as a truck unless you have to rarely use the bed, and then again I'd ask if it's really less resource intensive than a RAM 1500 that someone would buy instead. I look at the Rimac, or any of these other EV cars and echo the same sentiment as the annoying Doug Demuro.

I've driven a Taycan Turbo S, a Plaid, a X, a 3 and they're all the same thing. Yes, the (initial) acceleration is great. No, they don't handle well (except the Taycan). The brakes are inadequate (Plaid). Are these really meant to just be disposable appliances like an electric shaver?


All of us that are actual car enthusiasts will likely be relegated to same fate as horse enthusiasts are now.
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Probably safe to say it wont look like that if it makes it to production. Probably something 50% between that and a potato.
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