04-19-2021, 11:11 AM | #23 |
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According to the article, "two crash victims were born in 1962 and 1951."
Greater wisdom with age apparently does not apply in this tragic instance. Semi-autonomous driving in a world where there are still other drivers piloting their vehicles with a nearly complete loss of memory (yes - using turn signals is helpful to other drivers) creates more risks - not fewer risks. |
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04-19-2021, 11:20 AM | #24 |
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I don't own a Tesla, but how can that car even drive with not anyone behind the wheel?
I thought that wasn't allowed yet, and that the car, besides the simple occupance sensor in the seat also had software that requires driver input now and then. Or are those parameters subject to change on regional basis and the US is different than say Europe?
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I don't know how or why anyone could trust a computer with the safety of their life. They have a mind of their own. What if the car just accelerates or turns whenever it wants to? What about someone on the dark web hacking the car and taking over the controls? |
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04-19-2021, 02:11 PM | #30 |
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I suggest they go after the guy that showed up at the hospital with all kinds of road rash from leaping from the drivers seat of an out-of-control Tesla the day after the incident. Barring that scenario just be thankful that the world is now two stupid idiots less and carry on. No lawsuit here.
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I'm curious as to how this even happens. Certainly there's some safety feature that requires a butt to be in the driver's seat to activate and continue to use autopilot.
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04-19-2021, 02:21 PM | #34 |
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Idiots will find a way to defeat those safeguards and then sue Tesla when they crash.
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me and some dude on discord were trying to figure out how the Tesla could self drive without a driver. I thought you had to have contact with the steering wheel.
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The truly disturbing part was that fire. 4 hours and 32,000 gallons of water to extinguish it. WTF? And how much of all that runoff was toxic?
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All that water was serving to cool the batteries that were in thermal overrun. You gotta get them cool in order to stop the chain reaction and self-ignition. 32k gallons also sounds really impressive but when you figure that a typical pumper truck can deliver 1500 GPM, you're talking more than 20 minutes of hosing that thing down to bring it under control! Crazy! |
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It is POSSIBLE to activate the 'Autopilot' system and then jump out of the driver's seat. It was never designed to be used this way, there are multiple warnings against doing anything of the sort, the car will request input via the steering wheel--but this could be given from another seat. Tesla doesn't seem to rely on a seat occupancy sensor for driver 'attention', which I think is odd and an oversight. At the end of the day I don't consider it my car's responsibility to protect me from my own negligence.
Completely irresponsible on the part of the occupants--but this is all assuming that there was no one in the driver's seat at the time of the accident which I think is unclear. There's still a possibility that the heat of the fire prompted the driver to switch seats before perishing from the flames, which doesn't seem to be mentioned in any article. If this is the case then it's no different than the thousands of other accidents that occurred Saturday night.
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Yeah, despite all of Tesla's hooplah about auto pilot it's just not ready for widespread use IMO. There are just too many stories about its failures. I know there'll be people that say it's the idiots and their hacks that are the problem but that just reinforces my point that autopilot isn't ready. If it was then its safety systems wouldn't be able to be defeated so easily and by such low tech means.
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I bet the case of beer was in the drivers seat, no cinder block needed.
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