2024 Z4 M40i gets Manual Transmission and multiple Performance Upgrades for US market

tracer bullet · 12-12-2023, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

Agree, different audience for sure. If you desire a vert the M2 is out, if you don’t care for a vert and need extra seats Z4 is out.

I don't care particularly care for a vert and would like the extra seats (but don't need them).

Funny thing is I like that the Z4 is lighter and smaller. If it shifts better and has more steering feedback over the M2, I'm in. I'm not knocking the M2, at all, just know what I'd rather have of the 2.

BMWCCA1 · 12-12-2023, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by heavyD^2

I wonder if the shift linkage will be the same as the Supra as Toyota massaged that for better feel compared to the typical BMW rubbery throws.

Sounds like someone who's never driven a BMW with manual transmission.

And I'm commenting as a 128i M-sport 6MT driver.

Westside Guy · 12-12-2023, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by heavyD^2

I wonder if the shift linkage will be the same as the Supra as Toyota massaged that for better feel compared to the typical BMW rubbery throws.

Read the reviews and you will see how BMW tweaked it.

MisanoblueZ4 · 12-12-2023, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Westside Guy

This 6MT version of the G29 with all of the desirable packages will end up costing close to $80k.

Yea but loading it up takes away from driver engagement!! lol

One of the things that I’m still not used to is the font/coloring on the main LCD gauges. I find it vague on the rpm side when shifting myself. I DO have the hud and probably should make use of its sports mode.
But yea as a manual driver without hud i would be rather difficult to know exactly where in the rpm band the engine is in. The auto is handling that 99% of the time so I’m not focusing much on rpm.

NickyC · 12-12-2023, 08:16 PM

One of the very few good looking current model BMWs.

M2siast · 12-13-2023, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tracer bullet

I don't disagree, but I think it's kind of a different audience. There will be cross shopping of the two, but somehow I think anyone doing so already knows which car they'd prefer.

This.

For whom the G87 is a toy/weekend/track car, the Z4 is a car to consider.

For those of us who only have one car, sadly it’s not an option, and the G87 is the only one.

Wish I could get a toy like a Z4 manual…

Toys normally cost more because they are niche and a lifestyle product.

You guys that can should get one and keep it.

Westside Guy · 12-13-2023, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by M2siast

This.

For whom the G87 is a toy/weekend/track car, the Z4 is a car to consider.

For those of us who only have one car, sadly it’s not an option, and the G87 is the only one.

Wish I could get a toy like a Z4 manual…

Toys normally cost more because they are niche and a lifestyle product.

You guys that can should get one and keep it.

Your statement really depends on one’s circumstances. My son is an adult and has his own family to attend to so I don’t worry about driving others. The Z4 is my daily driver and it totally performs that role and in my case is not a toy.

Westside Guy · 12-13-2023, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NickyC

One of the very few good looking current model BMWs.

IMHO, everyone in the G29 forum will agree with that statement.

M2siast · 12-13-2023, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Westside Guy

Your statement really depends on one’s circumstances. My son is an adult and has his own family to attend to so I don’t worry about driving others. The Z4 is my daily driver and it totally performs that role and in my case is not a toy.

Is the Z4 your only car then?

alex2364 · 12-13-2023, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BMWCCA1

Sounds like someone who's never driven a BMW with manual transmission.

And I'm commenting as a 128i M-sport 6MT driver.

Sounds like someone who's never driven a car with a proper manual transmission. BMW manuals are terrible. Go drive a S2000 and get back to us.

Westside Guy · 12-13-2023, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by M2siast

Is the Z4 your only car then?

No, my wife has a 2021 228i GC. We have a deal that she never drives my Z4 and I will love her forever!

uhn2000 · 12-13-2023, 01:21 PM

Is this USA market only and does that include Canada by any chance?

SYT_Shadow · 12-13-2023, 01:50 PM

so happy BMW released this! We need more 6MTs in the world!

Mani59 · 12-13-2023, 03:14 PM

Thanks for the update!

Spoolin Montego · 12-13-2023, 03:29 PM

Needs hardtop and M treatment and then they will sell many of them!

Bimmerfun82 · 12-13-2023, 03:47 PM

Gonna pick one of these up in early 2026 and put it in my museum. Thanks BMW!

JK479 · 12-13-2023, 03:54 PM

I know it will never happen- but imagine a z4 M instead of the m40i

Imagine the return of the M Roadster. A goodbye reminiscent of the first M Roadster when it was a z3. As a former z3 2.8 new in 99- I dream about that old car and how special it felt.

G30 B58 · 12-13-2023, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by alex2364

Sounds like someone who's never driven a car with a proper manual transmission. BMW manuals are terrible. Go drive a S2000 and get back to us.

S2000 owner here. Amen.

blue135 · 12-13-2023, 04:06 PM

Just a thought - should we think about the AT/MT Z4 comparison more like the 135i/1M comparison? 1M was/is not a real 'M', but it has improvements that the 135i did not have and no more horsepower than 135is. Handles better than the 135i and has not suffered in the depreciation environment.
Maybe a better way to frame the comparison for folks.

BMR.WRLD · 12-13-2023, 04:09 PM

I'm certainly not the target audience, however I am really happy this exists. I think it will help the target audience stop complaining about the M2 and get what they really want. We can all get along.

M3WC · 12-13-2023, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by blue135

Just a thought - should we think about the AT/MT Z4 comparison more like the 135i/1M comparison? 1M was/is not a real 'M', but it has improvements that the 135i did not have and no more horsepower than 135is. Handles better than the 135i and has not suffered in the depreciation environment.
Maybe a better way to frame the comparison for folks.

No, 1M is a lot closer to an actual M-car. It got actual M3 equipment...subframes, all suspension components(dampers, control arms, bushings, sway bars, etc.), LSD, steering rack, brakes, wheels, tire sizes. Also a full wide body to accommodate those upgrades. I'd say AT/MT Z4 it is more akin to 335i vs 335is, "is" got the DCT, sport tuned software, different exhaust, unique wheels, trim details.

Navy Davy · 12-13-2023, 04:35 PM

It’d be interesting if they make an MZ4 or Z4M. If they do they should just make it one version and put out the best first, go straight to MZ4CS with the S58. Better the S58 go in BMW’s two seater than Toyota’s. Both is also good tho.

Fingers crossed on manual and xdrive options to choose from 😅.

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