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      01-25-2017, 09:37 AM   #45
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I wonder how many of these people that want the wall check when a roofing, landscaping, construction, maid service is doing work for them and try to verify that no illegals will be doing the work.

You want to stop illegal immigration make it a huge fine and/or jail time to knowingly hire them. Yes many illegals come up with fake identification cards but many others are knowingly hired when the business owner knows they are illegal. If the jobs are eliminated or very scarce they won't come here.
And how many of these contractors or companies are either run by illegal aliens or by immigrants who don't believe or don't care they are breaking US laws?
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I think the wall is going to have to be significantly taller.

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Ah ha. That's why the airlines started charging 100 bucks for the extra bag, these guys were filling up the second bag with dope and not being charged.
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And how many of these contractors or companies are either run by illegal aliens or by immigrants who don't believe or don't care they are breaking US laws?
And yet Americans hire them. Wouldn't it be easier to stop the human traffic by stopping using such labor? Just a wild thought but if you paid for a native, the traffic would end.
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And how many of these contractors or companies are either run by illegal aliens or by immigrants who don't believe or don't care they are breaking US laws?
I think the number of companies run by illegals is very small but it doesn't matter, you knowingly hire illegals you will be face large fines or jail time.

Meat processing plants, farming, manufacturing, restaurants, vast majority of these businesses aren't run by illegals.

We all know a huge part of the manual labor for farming is done by illegals but the thought of telling the farmer he will go to jail or face a huge fine for hiring them is unthinkable.
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And yet Americans hire them. Wouldn't it be easier to stop the human traffic by stopping using such labor? Just a wild thought but if you paid for a native, the traffic would end.
X2, not a $20 billion dollar wall project and a lot more effective.
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Search illegal in the U.S.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...on-in-the-u-s/



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Because companies don't build multi billion dollar plants in places they can't do business with and everyone wants to get the hell out of there. Source for anything?

One minute they are taking all of our jobs and the next it is a horrible, corrupt place where everyone wants to leave?
I'm not sure where you're trying to get. Do you think most of those crossing are from countries other than Mexico? I know many are but am not familiar with percentages.

I've got nothing against immigrants wanting to come in and do things properly. I've said nothing, ever, about Mexican assembly plants. Business is business. If these companies are thinking twice now that trump has offered incentives that make staying a viable alternative, that's their choice.
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X2, not a $20 billion dollar wall project and a lot more effective.
But.....but then you'd have to pay them more!
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Search illegal in the U.S.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...on-in-the-u-s/



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Because companies don't build multi billion dollar plants in places they can't do business with and everyone wants to get the hell out of there. Source for anything?

One minute they are taking all of our jobs and the next it is a horrible, corrupt place where everyone wants to leave?
It does not solve the problem of the drugs entering the boarder areas, so illegals are still coming across in large numbers, are the others exiting hence net flow, just going in the opposite direction? The estimated numbers of illegals are just to varied for me to believe with much certainty on this data really. Something is not adding up IMO.
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I think the number of companies run by illegals is very small but it doesn't matter, you knowingly hire illegals you will be face large fines or jail time.

Meat processing plants, farming, manufacturing, restaurants, vast majority of these businesses aren't run by illegals.

We all know a huge part of the manual labor for farming is done by illegals but the thought of telling the farmer he will go to jail or face a huge fine for hiring them is unthinkable.
Will the sanctuary cities sign up for this? If they don't it will not work.
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Ah the Great Wall, yes. Maybe we can buy it!

We have to do something because what we have now is not working. We have lots of border patrol folks down there now, That's not working either.

We have a lot of these guys in jail right now, sounds like a great source of cheap - free - labor.

"What we have here is failure to communicate, now I don't like this anymore then you do, but that's the way he wants it, so...He gits it." Edit, for those who don't recognize "Cool hand Luke"
Its not an original lyric from Guns'n'Roses?
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All Border Patrol Agents should be allowed a few AK-47's
Not surprising. The Trump supporter wants to arm American agents with Soviet guns.
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Its not an original lyric from Guns'n'Roses?
No. They used it in the song Civil War. Cool Hand Luke is the original usage.
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X2, not a $20 billion dollar wall project and a lot more effective.
I could for fun count the cost per citizen plus maintenance for fun. That would give us a rough estimate on how much more the American gardeners could bill without extra cost to the citizens.

Btw, the wall also would raise the cost of the illegal labor. Without competition, mowing expenses would rise.
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It does not solve the problem of the drugs entering the boarder areas, so illegals are still coming across in large numbers, are the others exiting hence net flow, just going in the opposite direction? The estimated numbers of illegals are just to varied for me to believe with much certainty on this data really. Something is not adding up IMO.
The wall is going to stop the flow of illegal drugs? Where did this come from?

Do you any source that says there are large inflows and outflows or just a theory? You don't believe all of the studies that says the number is dropping slightly so you are sticking with basing it on nothing?

Where did you see wildly different numbers of illegals here?
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[QUOTE=Cattivo;21171610]All Border Patrol Agents should be allowed a few AK-47's and rabid dogs to keep these cockroaches out!


I suspect you are not one of those people mentioned in fecurtis post "Trump Supporters in DC", the ones that politely engaged in conversation and left the big tip.......

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Will the sanctuary cities sign up for this? If they don't it will not work.
A few cities in the country not following the program won't ruin it and it if your city and state did follow it the numbers of illegals in your area would drop significantly. Who cares if San Francisco doesn't go along with the program and is overrun with illegals that can't find jobs to support them.

I don't live in a sanctuary city or state and virtually no one does so let them have what ever problems come with not complying.
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Its not an original lyric from Guns'n'Roses?
Your question is Rhetorical... yes? I know the group, but not real familiar with their material. Not my style.
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The wall is going to stop the flow of illegal drugs? Where did this come from?

Do you any source that says there are large inflows and outflows or just a theory? You don't believe all of the studies that says the number is dropping slightly so you are sticking with basing it on nothing?

Where did you see wildly different numbers of illegals here?
Illegal immigration is still occurring so if the net flow is zero where are the ones who already came over going?

If the wall is built a mile or so away from the boarder where possible, That's a long tunnel to dig, tunneling also makes noise that can be detected and its not the only way drugs get into the country, they carry them in places where there is no barriers. Hell, they use submarines to carry drugs, but I don't know where the drop off point is. The wall or barrier will make it more difficult to enter illegally, period. This has been going on for far too long.

News has been reporting increases in illegal immigration over the last few months. Did it stop on Jan 20th? I doubt it.
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