BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BIMMERPOST Universal Forums Off-Topic Discussions Board Politics/Religion Build That Wall

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-26-2017, 04:02 PM   #265
justinnum1
Major General
622
Rep
5,795
Posts

Drives: 2018 330i Msport 6mt
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by PA135i View Post
no... I suspect,,, the Press,,,,, jumped on the story and got it wrong again.
nah... that doesn't happen.. lol
The 20% figure came directly from spicer...
__________________
F30 330i Alpine white/Coral red Msport 6MT
Appreciate 0
      01-26-2017, 04:08 PM   #266
walnuttea
Private First Class
35
Rep
106
Posts

Drives: 2016 BMW M235i, Alpine White
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Chicago, IL

iTrader: (0)

What's funny is that, at the end of the day, the wall solves 0 problems. It literally just uses taxpayer dollars for a fake solution that doesn't address any of the real problems (violence and lack of financial prospects in Mexico, managing the illegal immigrant population already well established in the country, etc.). Most illegal immigrants enter the country by air, and then stay past their temporary visa status. In other words, a large percentage of illegal immigrants enter the country legally, and then become illegal. It's not like you have ~170K Mexican citizens running across the Mexico/US border every year.

The effectiveness of "the wall" is a pipe dream that sounds great in a vacuum and that's about it. Don't get me wrong, I am 100% AGAINST illegal immigrants being in this country, and I fully support a strong push to solve the problem. I also don't claim to know the answer because it's a very complex issue which has been going on for years. But, in my opinion, this is the wrong approach and the more people discuss costs and realize what a massive, largely fruitless undertaking this will be, the more head scratches I see. Even from Trump supporters. There is no 1-button solution to this problem, and that includes putting up a $25B + "brick" wall.
Appreciate 1
VRG_135794.50

      01-26-2017, 04:09 PM   #267
gonzo
Lieutenant General
gonzo's Avatar
United_States
8696
Rep
13,880
Posts

Drives: as many as possible
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: TeXXXas

iTrader: (0)

My putting practice session was great. Man, it's nice out.

Oh...almost forgot.

__________________
Crazy Diamond
Appreciate 1
      01-26-2017, 04:10 PM   #268
fecurtis
Banned
United_States
3169
Rep
6,302
Posts

Drives: 2014 BMW 335i M-Sport
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Arlington, VA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzo View Post
My putting practice session was great.

Oh, here.

We are literally all going to die.
Appreciate 1
MKSixer23232.50

      01-26-2017, 04:14 PM   #269
PA135i
Brigadier General
PA135i's Avatar
United_States
947
Rep
3,323
Posts

Drives: 08 135i 08 CR-V
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Pennsylvania

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fecurtis View Post
You would suspect incorrectly then since the comments were made on camera:
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2...ax-imports.cnn

That's just Spicer going on about his alternative facts again I guess.
Aaahh DAM !!!! I hate when that happens.

Since I'm working.. I'm not at liberty to watch TV.. etc.. I was guessing.
But, I really don't care what was said today.

I know what I am having for dinner tonight though. Mexican !!!!
__________________
Sparkling Graphite Metallic / 6MT / Terracotta Boston Leather / Sport Package / Comfort Access system / Gray Poplar wood trim / Heated front seats / iPod and USB adapter / HD radio / Premium hi-fi system / OE Tuning / VRSF Intercooler & charge pipe / BMW Performance short shift kit / BMW M Performance Handbrake Handle / BMW Stainless steel pedals / V1 hardwired / rear sun shades Pennsylvania 20 electoral votes
Appreciate 0
      01-26-2017, 04:20 PM   #270
gonzo
Lieutenant General
gonzo's Avatar
United_States
8696
Rep
13,880
Posts

Drives: as many as possible
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: TeXXXas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fecurtis View Post
We are literally all going to die.
Reading 'Legos, I'm a hippie, I once self incubated an abandoned woodpecker egg' one more time, I might just see the reap soon myself.
__________________
Crazy Diamond
Appreciate 1
      01-26-2017, 04:22 PM   #271
Lups
...
Lups's Avatar
11061
Rep
15,343
Posts

Drives: I don't own a car.
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Lost as usual

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bbbbmw View Post
Have I got a job for you.
Please offer! My current position dries out in a year.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joekerr View Post
You're still a little new here, so I'll let you in on a little secret. Whenever Lups types gibberish, this is an opportunity for you to imagine it to be whatever you'd like it to be.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta0311 View Post
How would you know this? Did mommy catch you jerking off to some Big Foot porn ?
Appreciate 0
      01-26-2017, 04:30 PM   #272
Lups
...
Lups's Avatar
11061
Rep
15,343
Posts

Drives: I don't own a car.
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Lost as usual

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzo View Post
Reading 'Legos, I'm a hippie, I once self incubated an abandoned woodpecker egg' one more time, I might just see the reap soon myself.
Some of us find this whole idea a joke. A good one you expand
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joekerr View Post
You're still a little new here, so I'll let you in on a little secret. Whenever Lups types gibberish, this is an opportunity for you to imagine it to be whatever you'd like it to be.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta0311 View Post
How would you know this? Did mommy catch you jerking off to some Big Foot porn ?
Appreciate 0
      01-26-2017, 05:04 PM   #273
Law
Global Moderator
Law's Avatar
5050
Rep
2,153
Posts

Drives: E90 M3 6MT
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: -

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2011.5 BMW M3  [5.00]
2004 BMW M3  [5.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by PA135i View Post
Yeah. The great wall of China. And that wall is a hell of a lot longer than what this one would be.
Really?
You want to talk about Chinese history now? Because China Proper was never overrun by northern "barbarian" tribes thanks to the safety and security of the Great Wall

The Mongols and Manchus would like a word with you.
__________________
2011.5 E90 ///M3 | 6-Speed Manual | Jerez Black | Fox Red |

| E9x M3 Press/Media Archives Thread | S65-based Racing Engines Thread |
Appreciate 0
      01-26-2017, 05:22 PM   #274
Zippster
Major
Zippster's Avatar
United_States
459
Rep
1,134
Posts

Drives: 17 BMW M2
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Maryland

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lups View Post
Hahaha, you could probably, I was saving up to buy new skates and though my parents were well off, I preferred to make my own money.

A bit different scenario if I had to support myself on that pay, right?
Not if you became a professional Ice Skater, you could work that job in the summer!
Appreciate 0
      01-26-2017, 05:27 PM   #275
gonzo
Lieutenant General
gonzo's Avatar
United_States
8696
Rep
13,880
Posts

Drives: as many as possible
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: TeXXXas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lups View Post
Some of us find this whole idea a joke. A good one you expand
The young and old people of the great state of HeroinMethCocaineEntryway, otherwise known as Texas are so glad you're getting a good giggle.
__________________
Crazy Diamond
Appreciate 0
      01-26-2017, 06:39 PM   #276
PA135i
Brigadier General
PA135i's Avatar
United_States
947
Rep
3,323
Posts

Drives: 08 135i 08 CR-V
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Pennsylvania

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Law View Post
Really?
You want to talk about Chinese history now? Because China Proper was never overrun by northern "barbarian" tribes thanks to the safety and security of the Great Wall

The Mongols and Manchus would like a word with you.
Bring em on. Mongols. what ever... lol
__________________
Sparkling Graphite Metallic / 6MT / Terracotta Boston Leather / Sport Package / Comfort Access system / Gray Poplar wood trim / Heated front seats / iPod and USB adapter / HD radio / Premium hi-fi system / OE Tuning / VRSF Intercooler & charge pipe / BMW Performance short shift kit / BMW M Performance Handbrake Handle / BMW Stainless steel pedals / V1 hardwired / rear sun shades Pennsylvania 20 electoral votes
Appreciate 0
      01-26-2017, 11:00 PM   #277
Lups
...
Lups's Avatar
11061
Rep
15,343
Posts

Drives: I don't own a car.
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Lost as usual

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzo View Post
The young and old people of the great state of HeroinMethCocaineEntryway, otherwise known as Texas are so glad you're getting a good giggle.
It's more like a real life lol, than a giggle.

And a face palm.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joekerr View Post
You're still a little new here, so I'll let you in on a little secret. Whenever Lups types gibberish, this is an opportunity for you to imagine it to be whatever you'd like it to be.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta0311 View Post
How would you know this? Did mommy catch you jerking off to some Big Foot porn ?
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2017, 04:08 AM   #278
Goneinsixtyseconds
Major General
Goneinsixtyseconds's Avatar
United Kingdom
2844
Rep
5,574
Posts

Drives: X3 M40d
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Chesterfield

iTrader: (0)

I want to stop Mexican immigrants coming to the US and I want to stop Mexico from having successful manufacturing plants.

You have to be retarded to push forward with both of those things at the same time and think that both are going to be successful.

An idea might be to sit down with some of the people who have been employed to advise him and discuss things before blurting out every single badly considered thought he's ever had, as a policy promise 3 days into his presidency. Maybe he's worried he'll never see 4 years out.
Appreciate 1
Lups11061.00

      01-27-2017, 06:05 AM   #279
trvplvrdBOI
Many men...wish death.
trvplvrdBOI's Avatar
No_Country
707
Rep
885
Posts

Drives: at 14mpg
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: your mom's prob

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bbbbmw View Post
Except that one is a citizen, and has full rights - the other isn't, and doesn't.
Quote:
Originally Posted by fecurtis View Post
What difference does it make?

They're both lazy bums costing tax dollars in either example. Is it ok only if you're a citizen?
Quote:
Originally Posted by bbbbmw View Post
It's more ok if you are a citizen, because you are then in some way on the hook to pay it back. Do you really not understand that??
Clearly, the point I made about establishing methods of quantifying previously un-taxed income brought in by business owners [from illegal employees] has gone completely over your head, as the right continues to read what they choose to read. I'm done here.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaghave View Post
My post are perfectly coherit and well written.

Last edited by trvplvrdBOI; 01-27-2017 at 06:16 AM.. Reason: can't spell for shit
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2017, 06:18 AM   #280
Lups
...
Lups's Avatar
11061
Rep
15,343
Posts

Drives: I don't own a car.
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Lost as usual

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex340 View Post
I want to stop Mexican immigrants coming to the US and I want to stop Mexico from having successful manufacturing plants.

You have to be retarded to push forward with both of those things at the same time and think that both are going to be successful.

An idea might be to sit down with some of the people who have been employed to advise him and discuss things before blurting out every single badly considered thought he's ever had, as a policy promise 3 days into his presidency. Maybe he's worried he'll never see 4 years out.
It's all cool bro, chillax, Mexico is paying for the wall. Those bitches got slapped with an import tax! Americans are not paying for it!

(I'm still confused how Mexico gets slapped with an extra 20% for products they intend to sell in the USA and it's not the consumers paying for the price increase but then again I get confused also about this wall strategy)
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joekerr View Post
You're still a little new here, so I'll let you in on a little secret. Whenever Lups types gibberish, this is an opportunity for you to imagine it to be whatever you'd like it to be.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta0311 View Post
How would you know this? Did mommy catch you jerking off to some Big Foot porn ?
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2017, 06:19 AM   #281
trvplvrdBOI
Many men...wish death.
trvplvrdBOI's Avatar
No_Country
707
Rep
885
Posts

Drives: at 14mpg
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: your mom's prob

iTrader: (0)

Main purpose of the wall is to promote exercise amongst Mexicans.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaghave View Post
My post are perfectly coherit and well written.
Appreciate 1
      01-27-2017, 06:24 AM   #282
Lups
...
Lups's Avatar
11061
Rep
15,343
Posts

Drives: I don't own a car.
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Lost as usual

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by trvplvrdBOI View Post
Main purpose of the wall is to promote exercise amongst Mexicans.
But when shit hits the fan, it'll also keep Americans in. Man I can't wait for the moment when people realize who exactly will be paying the extra 20% collected.

I hate people who say I told you so, but in this I'll make an exception.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joekerr View Post
You're still a little new here, so I'll let you in on a little secret. Whenever Lups types gibberish, this is an opportunity for you to imagine it to be whatever you'd like it to be.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta0311 View Post
How would you know this? Did mommy catch you jerking off to some Big Foot porn ?
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2017, 06:34 AM   #283
trvplvrdBOI
Many men...wish death.
trvplvrdBOI's Avatar
No_Country
707
Rep
885
Posts

Drives: at 14mpg
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: your mom's prob

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lups View Post
But when shit hits the fan, it'll also keep Americans in. Man I can't wait for the moment when people realize who exactly will be paying the extra 20% collected.

I hate people who say I told you so, but in this I'll make an exception.


You think Americans would flee to Mexico? Serious question.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaghave View Post
My post are perfectly coherit and well written.
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2017, 06:43 AM   #284
Lups
...
Lups's Avatar
11061
Rep
15,343
Posts

Drives: I don't own a car.
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Lost as usual

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by trvplvrdBOI View Post


You think Americans would flee to Mexico? Serious question.
You're heading towards isolation, and yes, I can see people moving to Canada to look for a better future, and I'm sure Canada will enjoy and let your highly educated people in. But with isolation and soon booming inflation while investing heavily to projects with negative gains, I would expect people and big companies spreading to more lucrative markets.

You guys are talking about a wall, the rest of us are trying to figure out where the money will flood when USAs economy tanks. The positive examples of countries with the politics such as Trump is demanding are listed below:
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joekerr View Post
You're still a little new here, so I'll let you in on a little secret. Whenever Lups types gibberish, this is an opportunity for you to imagine it to be whatever you'd like it to be.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta0311 View Post
How would you know this? Did mommy catch you jerking off to some Big Foot porn ?
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2017, 06:45 AM   #285
trvplvrdBOI
Many men...wish death.
trvplvrdBOI's Avatar
No_Country
707
Rep
885
Posts

Drives: at 14mpg
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: your mom's prob

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lups View Post
You're heading towards isolation, and yes, I can see people moving to Canada to look for a better future, and I'm sure Canada will enjoy your highly educated people in. But with isolation and soon booming inflation while investing heavily to projects with negative gains, I would expect people and big companies spreading to more lucrative markets.

You guys are talking about a wall, the rest of us are trying to figure out where the money will flood when USAs economy tanks. The positive examples of countries with the politics such as Trump is demanding are listed below:
I see where you are coming from, but I'm pretty sure his defenders will be in soon to rip your post to shreds, so I'll take my exit now.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaghave View Post
My post are perfectly coherit and well written.
Appreciate 1
Lups11061.00

      01-27-2017, 06:47 AM   #286
Lups
...
Lups's Avatar
11061
Rep
15,343
Posts

Drives: I don't own a car.
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Lost as usual

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by trvplvrdBOI View Post
I see where you are coming from, but I'm pretty sure his defenders will be in soon to rip your post to shreds, so I'll take my exit now.
Yes, or they are mailing down last minute deals on new Toyotas before the increase, or they are getting cash to pay their gardeners.

Oh sorry, only democrats buy those unpatriotic shit mobiles.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joekerr View Post
You're still a little new here, so I'll let you in on a little secret. Whenever Lups types gibberish, this is an opportunity for you to imagine it to be whatever you'd like it to be.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta0311 View Post
How would you know this? Did mommy catch you jerking off to some Big Foot porn ?
Appreciate 1
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:42 PM.




bmw
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST