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      01-27-2016, 03:22 PM   #375
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And that's exactly what Trump said
I can't stand that guy and typically I'm more to the left on certain social issues so maybe I'm more libertarian? Not sure. For example, I can't stand the g_n control argument coming from the left. It doesn't make sense at all. I understand the point, but they don't understand the consequences. Anyways, I digres..

Regarding refugees, it is a sad situation regardless, and it would naturally be the right thing to do to take in people in such dire situations. It sucks, but you can't always please everyone and have to first and foremost, look after the well-being of the homeland first. I know people get caught up in lumping all people together and I'm not saying that. It's just a reality of increasing risk of potential danger.

San Bernadino, France, Turkey, I think even Indonesia all had attacks recently. Would you want that in LA, NY, or any other major metropolitan area? Why risk a chance of just strolling on a night out in downtown LA or Hollywood or Times Square or anywhere else, and then boom.

I don't need to live in a land like that for pete's sake, it's the year 2016 and we have to deal with some religious based uncivilized bullshit behavior. I even oppose them going to Canada, because the handful of fucked up refugees are going to jump across the border to complete their mission.

We're just not accepting them, it's not like we're rounding all of them up and putting them in concentration camps like they did to the japanese americans during ww2.
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I'm not about anti-immigrant but I think this topic is more about being 100% cautious and to prevent any additional domestic terrorist threats entering. It's simply just a "you never know" situation so it should be put on hold until things get sorted out.
And, make no mistake, this is exactly the approach that everyone is screaming is racist. Just remember that. I'm no Trump defender or supporter, but "100% cautious" is exactly what he said about how we should handle Muslim immigrants in the current climate and now he's a bigot. He said the same things about immigration. Secure the borders, get it under control, and then let people come here legally. That's racist, too. So, in summary, Enforcing our existing immigration laws and controlling our country's access during a time marked by terrorists coming from a specific area of the world by tightening our visa requirements (which is constitutionally legal) = Racism and Bigotry.
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And, make no mistake, this is exactly the approach that everyone is screaming is racist. Just remember that. I'm no Trump defender or supporter, but "100% cautious" is exactly what he said about how we should handle Muslim immigrants in the current climate and now he's a bigot.
Yeah, it's crazy when you think about some of the political arguments that come around. Can't people just be level headed, think of both sides of the outcomes and then take an action based on the predicted outcome?

a. be nice and take in all refugees with the benefit of the doubt
b. be cautious and don't take in any refugees to minimize risk of US attacks.

I'll take B 100/100 times.
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Yeah, it's crazy when you think about some of the political arguments that come around. Can't people just be level headed, think of both sides of the outcomes and then take an action based on the predicted outcome?

a. be nice and take in all refugees with the benefit of the doubt
b. be cautious and don't take in any refugees to minimize risk of US attacks.

I'll take B 100/100 times.
So I went through some articles this morning concerning Sweden's decision to expel ~80-100K of their "migrants" and the comments from their left-wing crazy asses about "having a heart" and "showing some humanity" in the face of all the resulting violence in their country as well as other European countries is just jaw dropping. I mean, I find myself actually hoping these left wing crazy asses win and get what they deserve. Is that bad? I don't want bad things to happen to, otherwise, good people but I wonder what has to happen to these people to make them understand that what they think they want is is hazardous to the future of their country.

Oh, and more fuel for the fire:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/28/europe...est/index.html
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So I went through some articles this morning concerning Sweden's decision to expel ~80-100K of their "migrants" and the comments from their left-wing crazy asses about "having a heart" and "showing some humanity" in the face of all the resulting violence in their country as well as other European countries is just jaw dropping. I mean, I find myself actually hoping these left wing crazy asses win and get what they deserve. Is that bad? I don't want bad things to happen to, otherwise, good people but I wonder what has to happen to these people to make them understand that what they think they want is is hazardous to the future of their country.

Oh, and more fuel for the fire:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/28/europe...est/index.html
I actually agree with you.. These fuckers need to get burnt in order to realize that you shouldn't fuck with fire.. And with the boatloads of these goons coming in everyday, sooner or later the left will get a real nasty wake up call...

As far as Disneyland in Paris goes... Does anyone actually go to the Disneyland in France?

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So I went through some articles this morning concerning Sweden's decision to expel ~80-100K of their "migrants" and the comments from their left-wing crazy asses about "having a heart" and "showing some humanity" in the face of all the resulting violence in their country as well as other European countries is just jaw dropping. I mean, I find myself actually hoping these left wing crazy asses win and get what they deserve. Is that bad? I don't want bad things to happen to, otherwise, good people but I wonder what has to happen to these people to make them understand that what they think they want is is hazardous to the future of their country.

Oh, and more fuel for the fire:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/28/europe...est/index.html
it will never affect them since they probably live in an affluent bubble. As long as it doesn't affect them, they will never care. If something bad does happen, they will just sweep it under the rug with some dumb preventative guidelines which won't work the way it's supposed to.

edit: just clicked the link.....wasn't there someone in this thread that said bring those refugees to the US and a few said that we don't ppl at Disneyland to be massacred?
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Yeah, it's crazy when you think about some of the political arguments that come around. Can't people just be level headed, think of both sides of the outcomes and then take an action based on the predicted outcome?

a. be nice and take in all refugees with the benefit of the doubt
b. be cautious and don't take in any refugees to minimize risk of US attacks.

I'll take B 100/100 times.
A. is fucking insane.. Why have background checks at all if we are going to go that route? The honor system does not work in the real world..
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And, make no mistake, this is exactly the approach that everyone is screaming is racist. Just remember that. I'm no Trump defender or supporter, but "100% cautious" is exactly what he said about how we should handle Muslim immigrants in the current climate and now he's a bigot. He said the same things about immigration. Secure the borders, get it under control, and then let people come here legally. That's racist, too. So, in summary, Enforcing our existing immigration laws and controlling our country's access during a time marked by terrorists coming from a specific area of the world by tightening our visa requirements (which is constitutionally legal) = Racism and Bigotry.
And when an attack does happen (only a matter of time before they pull some other shit) the left will just blame it all on guns.. Islam is not the problem, you see we just need tighter gun control laws..
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it will never affect them since they probably live in an affluent bubble. As long as it doesn't affect them, they will never care. If something bad does happen, they will just sweep it under the rug with some dumb preventative guidelines which won't work the way it's supposed to.

edit: just clicked the link.....wasn't there someone in this thread that said bring those refugees to the US and a few said that we don't ppl at Disneyland to be massacred?
LMAO, yup that's exactly what they did in Germany after the New Years rape fest.. Instead of getting tough with these assholes, they created pamphlets about how to properly treat women. Now if you need a fucking guide on how to respect women, they you obviously should not be living in our communities.

Oh and speaking of rape, this shit just gets better and better....

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-eu-35413134
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It seems the change isn't what some expected.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/homesick-...131333288.html

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And when an attack does happen (only a matter of time before they pull some other shit) the left will just blame it all on guns.. Islam is not the problem, you see we just need tighter gun control laws..
crazy thing is I'm pretty much left on social issues but some things are just common sense such as this issue AND the gun control issue. The only people it affects are the law abiding which doesn't make sense. There is no way to control guns in the black market - why is that so hard to grasp? So ok, we may prevent some accidental shootings, but full blown attacks, I don't think so.
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Another story of a country that is struggling with refugees. This is truly sickening.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-Molndal.html
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Another story of a country that is struggling with refugees. This is truly sickening.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-Molndal.html
The murder of that girl is bloody horrible, I trust that guy is sent to prison for ever and should he get out it'll be with a one way ticket back to were he came from. F@cking prick.

The rest of the article contain a lot of tailing and even bs. Don't know what they get all from, we don't in our local news.
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Another survey- 600 Muslims in the US. Questions 12 and 13 again are disturbing, given the high percentages that are fine with violence against people who "insult Islam," etc.

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.o...-Poll-Data.pdf

It doesn't seem that a small percentage is radical.
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What refugee problem? Obama cuts border monitoring in half:

http://www.texastribune.org/2016/02/...cuts-border-s/
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ch-subway.html
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Well looks like we are having problems similar to Europe, in Amarillo, TX:

http://www.wnd.com/2016/02/so-it-beg...inal-refugees/

More evidence of Obama putting Americans at risk for his Global agenda. Perhaps he is trying to build his global reputation, for a role at the UN post-presidency?
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Can someone explain to me why we should take even one syrian refugee
Basic. Human. Decency.
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So your saying that if the US was a decent nation it would be letter terrorists in? Cos whether you like it or not mate, you have no way of vetting these migrants.
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So your saying that if the US was a decent nation it would be letter terrorists in? Cos whether you like it or not mate, you have no way of vetting these migrants.
Oh right, I forgot.. everyone who isn't from 'Murica is a terrorist.
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