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      02-12-2016, 09:55 AM   #397
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Oh right, I forgot.. everyone who isn't from 'Murica is a terrorist.
thats not what he said and you know it
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      02-12-2016, 09:58 AM   #398
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thats not what he said and you know it
What he said was total and utter bs, so.. shrug?
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Oh right, I forgot.. everyone who isn't from 'Murica is a terrorist.
Not all Muslims are terrorists.

But all the terrorists are Muslims.

Still want to let all the migrants in, when you don't know which are which?
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all the terrorists are Muslims
You're ignorant.

It's a fact that more than 90% of terrorists are not Muslim.

Also;
  • Non-Muslims make up the majority of terrorists in the United States: According to the FBI, 94% of terrorist attacks carried out in the United States from 1980 to 2005 have been by non-Muslims.
  • There have been over one thousand terrorist attacks in Europe in the past five years. Take a guess at what percent of those terrorists were Muslim. Wrong, now guess again. It's less than 2%.
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You know what? I feel abused by Mark the admin who had closed the "Refugees" thread by detecting some "radical" posts or similar. His advice was to change over to some skin or nazi forums instead. As a German I take this actually as offended by this advice and had expected some further explanations. No, this is no mimimimimi, but for what should I post further an open opinion when the administration just acts like a censor?
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      02-12-2016, 10:58 AM   #402
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You're ignorant.

It's a fact that more than 90% of terrorists are not Muslim.

Also;
  • Non-Muslims make up the majority of terrorists in the United States: According to the FBI, 94% of terrorist attacks carried out in the United States from 1980 to 2005 have been by non-Muslims.
  • There have been over one thousand terrorist attacks in Europe in the past five years. Take a guess at what percent of those terrorists were Muslim. Wrong, now guess again. It's less than 2%.
Your data for Europe is way, way out.

The inconvenient truth is of the 1.2 billion Muslims in the world, about 25% want the destruction of the West. Even allowing for the overstated wisdom of the world's intelligence agencies (let's cut that figure in half) you are left with 125,000 million Muslims that want America destroyed.

How much of a risk are you prepared to take mate?
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Your data for Europe is way, way out.

The inconvenient truth is of the 1.2 billion Muslims in the world, about 25% want the destruction of the West. Even allowing for the overstated wisdom of the world's intelligence agencies (let's cut that figure in half) you are left with 125,000 million Muslims that want America destroyed.

How much of a risk are you prepared to take mate?
There's a BIG difference between someone who has a thought and someone who is a terrorist.

Plus, people absolutely can be screened.
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There's a BIG difference between someone who has a thought and someone who is a terrorist.

Plus, people absolutely can be screened.
Screened for what, are they telling the truth?
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Screened for what, are they telling the truth?
Actually, yes. But I was more referring to background checks etc.
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You know what? I feel abused by Mark the admin who had closed the "Refugees" thread by detecting some "radical" posts or similar. His advice was to change over to some skin or nazi forums instead. As a German I take this actually as offended by this advice and had expected some further explanations. No, this is no mimimimimi, but for what should I post further an open opinion when the administration just acts like a censor?
The post "Mark" put up has been eating at me since it was posted. How dare he compare good men to Nazis' and Skinheads'! You should be ashamed of yourself Mark. The people posting about the atrocities that are going on around the world are genuinely concerned for their family and friends. Most people that try to put down or minimize the good people do not even have kids, and if they do they better pull their heads out of their asses if they care about them.
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an*

Sadly, you perfectly sum up the "great" state of Texas.

Shame you couldn't have discussed the issue without resorting to throwing insults around. Maybe you couldn't find the words?
I thought i would give back to you that you gave first.

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all the terrorists are Muslims
You're ignorant.

It's a fact that more than 90% of terrorists are not Muslim.


Believe me i have a lot more words that come to mind for "people" like you.
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I thought i would give back to you that you gave first.

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all the terrorists are Muslims
You're ignorant.

It's a fact that more than 90% of terrorists are not Muslim.


Believe me i have a lot more words that come to mind for "people" like you.
Saying that someone is displaying clear ignorance is not an insult. I guess the English language is hard for you to understand? Nobody in their right mind can actually believe that all terrorists are Muslims!

Go for it, let me hear your oh-so-wise words.

You know nothing about me, so it should be amusing.
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I saw that nazi skinhead remark. Lack of civility was the warning before closing the thread and nazi skinheads is directed at members????
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Saying that someone is displaying clear ignorance is not an insult. I guess the English language is hard for you to understand?

Go for it, let me hear your oh-so-wise words.

You know nothing about me, so it should be amusing.
Fella. You're being a hypocrite so just chill out.
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Saying that someone is displaying clear ignorance is not an insult. I guess the English language is hard for you to understand?

Go for it, let me hear your oh-so-wise words.

You know nothing about me, so it should be amusing.
You would like that would't you? You are the kind or person that tries to get people in trouble while starting trouble to begin with.
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Fella. You're being a hypocrite so just chill out.
Not at all.

Also, I'm perfectly chilled out.. I'm not the one getting irate here. I'm just amused.
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Blacks being killed by cops are over-reported and largely spun by the mainstream media. Look at the circumstances in any of the over-reported incidents over the past several years, and it's clearly a lot of fabrication. Flames are further fanned by Obama and his administration.

The major contender for President did NOT say that most Mexicans are rapists and murders. Here's his actual quote:

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending the best,” he said during the announcement. “They're not sending you, they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists and some, I assume, are good people, but I speak to border guards and they're telling us what we're getting."

He would appear to be right, in any study of crime:

"- Between 2008 and 2014, 40% of all murder convictions in Florida were criminal aliens. In New York it was 34% and Arizona 17.8%.
- During those years, criminal aliens accounted for 38% of all murder convictions in the five states of California, Texas, Arizona, Florida and New York, while illegal aliens constitute only 5.6% of the total population in those states.
- That 38% represents 7,085 murders out of the total of 18,643."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journal...n-some-states/

Trump also did NOT say that he would ban Muslims, nor did any of the state Governors. What Trump actually said was:

“We need a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States while we figure out what the hell is going on.”

This was in response to the multiple jihad-based shootings, including San Bernardino, where both of the shooters waltzed past our so-called "screenings."

The President has this authority, and has had since 1952:

"Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate." (Jimmy Carter exercised this authority when he banned Iranians from entering the US in 1979, and deported thousands of Iranians who were here).

Similarly, the state Governors are rejecting non-vetted immigrants from the middle east to be settled in their states. The larger issue is that states (including local law enforcement) are not being notified at all by the Feds when these immigrants are settled in the states. There was a lot of conflict when Obama proposed allowing 10,000 Syrians to immigrate next year; in reality, the US took over 102,000 since 2012, with no notice to the states, and no vetting process. This is why the Governors are trying to stop it.
I agree with nearly everything you say but this is simply untrue. I am a dyed-in-the-wool law and order guy who will gladly pay more taxes for 3 things:

1. Better pay for the military, better funded VA, and more hardware.(600 ship navy and a military space program - the real deal.)
2. Better Roads. We are car people, no need to explain this one.
3. More jails. Lock 'em up and throw away the key and the death penalty should be universal with all appeals exhausted after 2 years.

The disproportionate murdering of people of color by the police is appalling and without cause. It is the result of poorly trained police and the militarization of the police forces in the US. There is absolutely no reason that a person should receive a summary death administered by a 28 y/o for walking down the street with a can, a knife, a cell phone, or a gun.

Yes. A gun. Unless they are posting a clear and present danger to society the situations need to be de-escalated. Anyone that believes that there isn't a police-race problem in this country is just sticking their head in the sand.

As an aside, the major correlation between justice and injustice in this country is the amount of money one has. Race is secondary. Once one enters the criminal justice system, nothing matters but $. I'm not opposed to putting the crims in jail...I just want them to get there first.

Well...not child molesters and violent rapist. They can be shot in the street. Cheers-mk
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You would like that would't you? You are the kind or person that tries to get people in trouble while starting trouble to begin with.
Sorry, I didn't realize that this was the school playground.

I'm going to take the high road and let you continue your "discussion" in my absence. Enjoy!
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Sorry, I didn't realize that this was the school playground.

I'm going to take the high road and let you continue your "discussion" in my absence. Enjoy!
Typical puss-out answer when confronted with facts.
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There's a BIG difference between someone who has a thought and someone who is a terrorist.

Plus, people absolutely can be screened.
So if people can be screened, how come the US can't control terrorists within your borders?

And you want to let more terrorists in?
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I saw that nazi skinhead remark. Lack of civility was the warning before closing the thread and nazi skinheads is directed at members????
You'll find the "liberals" are far worse than the "skinheads".
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There isn't one good reason why we should. I'm aware of where some of these refugees have been housed. They were put up in a really nice house, nice car, etc. It's frustrating to me.
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