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      10-21-2016, 09:31 AM   #23
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I agree on her poor judgment.

But I don't agree that her discussing a well known fact is an error of judgment.
Whether there's anything credible about it isnt relevent

Whats relevent is that she has horrible judgement and there was no reason to bring the subject up let alone go into great detail
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Radiohead made a song about it in 2007, are you mad about that too?
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I agree on her poor judgment.

But I don't agree that her discussing a well known fact is an error of judgment.
When you have a clearance and have been granted access to information that is deemed sensitive in one way or another, you do not discuss that information in the open.... period.

Even small little details independently may look innocent but aggregate enough little pieces together and you have major information. Even information that is supposedly in the "open" is still not discussed.

The process and procedures to prevent this is called OPSEC.

Example... Back in the 80's tail markings and other distinguishing marks on carrier based aircraft were removed. (ie the Jollie Roger on USS Nimitz, etc) Why? Because if spotted by an agent and passed on, the enemy would know exactly what carrier group was in what area. Even today, departure information of carrier groups is serious OPSEC even though you could stand on shores of certain areas and watch the aircraft carriers leave the docks.

And if you have not heard... the Intermission of the Cold War is over. This shit is getting real very quick.
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When you have a clearance and have been granted access to information that is deemed sensitive in one way or another, you do not discuss that information in the open.... period.

Even small little details independently may look innocent but aggregate enough little pieces together and you have major information. Even information that is supposedly in the "open" is still not discussed.

The process and procedures to prevent this is called OPSEC.

Example... Back in the 80's tail markings and other distinguishing marks on carrier based aircraft were removed. (ie the Jollie Roger on USS Nimitz, etc) Why? Because if spotted by an agent and passed on, the enemy would know exactly what carrier group was in what area. Even today, departure information of carrier groups is serious OPSEC even though you could stand on shores of certain areas and watch the aircraft carriers leave the docks.

And if you have not heard... the Intermission of the Cold War is over. This shit is getting real very quick.

Apples and oranges.

Identification and location of carrier groups is not available on the internet, is it?

Again, you'll be better off with legit criticism, rather than partisan BS.
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Apples and oranges.

Identification and location of carrier groups is not available on the internet, is it?

Again, you'll be better off with legit criticism, rather than partisan BS.
On the internet? That is your reasoning? ROFLMAO.... what ever.

You are obviously a political hack who wants to bash anyone who is going to tell the truth.

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Yeah, I guess a fact that has been know to the world for years is top secret. If that's your best argument. . .

But we do know that she drinks the blood of Christian babies and that HRC and Bill have left a trail of dead bodies going back to the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand. . .

PS: I live in NY and have never voted for HRC, always for her opponent, and I will probably not vote for her this year either.
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On the internet? That is your reasoning? ROFLMAO.... what ever.

You are obviously a political hack who wants to bash anyone who is going to tell the truth.

Your "truth" is false, and you know it.
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Your "truth" is false, and you know it.
ROFLMAO.... I know the truth about OPSEC very well.

Unfortunately, it's people like you who have absolutely no clue of any of the reasons or truths about it that whine like little bitches that people who violate the rules and procedures haven't done anything wrong.

The truth of the matter is that people have lost their clearance, been fired, and / or been jailed for far less than what Hillary has done.

But because she is a political bitch and there are those who have zero fucking integrity and honor, she gets away with it. Because the liberal media wants her as POTUS, they don't pursue her failures to act like someone who should be President.

And congratulations, you have the honor of being the second person on this board to be put on my ignore list.
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ROFLMAO.... I know the truth about OPSEC very well.

Unfortunately, it's people like you who have absolutely no clue of any of the reasons or truths about it that whine like little bitches that people who violate the rules and procedures haven't done anything wrong.

The truth of the matter is that people have lost their clearance, been fired, and / or been jailed for far less than what Hillary has done.

But because she is a political bitch and there are those who have zero fucking integrity and honor, she gets away with it. Because the liberal media wants her as POTUS, they don't pursue her failures to act like someone who should be President.

And congratulations, you have the honor of being the second person on this board to be put on my ignore list.
Mission accomplished!

One partisan troll down, 22 million to go.

But seriously, this is part of the problem. Not just his arrogance, but the blind hatred of the right and the left.

So many people these days will swallow hook, line and sinker anything that supports their view regardless of how silly or false it might be.
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Stopped reading at Fox News.
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Say what you want but I am very familiar with OPSEC as well and this was a clear violation - whether information is open or dark. You do not say that information on television, let alone a presidential debate. Very poor judgement and others would be sitting in the FSO office explaining their choice. Hoping that paperwork is not filed against you.

By the way, this piece of information was classified at some point and you cannot disclose if you learned while it was classified. Guaranteed this was part of a briefing at some point in her "cleared" career.

I would be pissed if Trump did this as well.

Nothing to with Fox News - that is crap.
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Radiohead made a song about it in 2007, are you mad about that too?
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ROFLMAO.... I know the truth about OPSEC very well.

Unfortunately, it's people like you who have absolutely no clue of any of the reasons or truths about it that whine like little bitches that people who violate the rules and procedures haven't done anything wrong.

The truth of the matter is that people have lost their clearance, been fired, and / or been jailed for far less than what Hillary has done.

But because she is a political bitch and there are those who have zero fucking integrity and honor, she gets away with it. Because the liberal media wants her as POTUS, they don't pursue her failures to act like someone who should be President.

And congratulations, you have the honor of being the second person on this board to be put on my ignore list.
So the ignore list is like your safe zone? Where you don't have to listen to dissenting views? Your with Melissa Click?

PS....please put me on your ignore list also.
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On the internet? That is your reasoning? ROFLMAO.... what ever.

You are obviously a political hack who wants to bash anyone who is going to tell the truth.

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So the ignore list is like your safe zone? Where you don't have to listen to dissenting views? Your with Melissa Click?

PS....please put me on your ignore list also.
Safe zone? ROFLMAO!!!

That is for whiny little asses that can't handle the truth.

It's because of people acting like Melissa Click that they end up on my ignore list. Because a person can only stomach so much bullshit from one person in a lifetime.

Granted... I've read some of the fecal matter you have been spewing.
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Safe zone? ROFLMAO!!!

That is for whiny little asses that can't handle the truth.

It's because of people acting like Melissa Click that they end up on my ignore list. Because a person can only stomach so much bullshit from one person in a lifetime.

Granted... I've read some of the fecal matter you have been spewing.
Thanks for confirming my initial and continued impression of you.
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Say what you want but I am very familiar with OPSEC as well and this was a clear violation - whether information is open or dark. You do not say that information on television, let alone a presidential debate. Very poor judgement and others would be sitting in the FSO office explaining their choice. Hoping that paperwork is not filed against you.

By the way, this piece of information was classified at some point and you cannot disclose if you learned while it was classified. Guaranteed this was part of a briefing at some point in her "cleared" career.

I would be pissed if Trump did this as well.

Nothing to with Fox News - that is crap.


Could you link to a particular code that was violated?

Edit: I recall when a sitting President spilled top secret info at a press conference.
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Safe zone? ROFLMAO!!!

That is for whiny little asses that can't handle the truth.

It's because of people acting like Melissa Click that they end up on my ignore list. Because a person can only stomach so much bullshit from one person in a lifetime.

Granted... I've read some of the fecal matter you have been spewing.
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So the ignore list is like your safe zone? Where you don't have to listen to dissenting views? Your with Melissa Click?

PS....please put me on your ignore list also.
Greyfox is right

Maybe you should consider being a little more tolerant or put HIM on YOUR ignore list
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Greyfox is right

Maybe you should consider being a little more tolerant or put HIM on YOUR ignore list
JP, Can you point me in the direction of an OPSEC code or rule that was violated by HRC?
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JP, Can you point me in the direction of an OPSEC code or rule that was violated by HRC?

Google is your friend....use it

It doesnt take a brain surgeon to figure out that its a "Bad Idea TM" to lend credibility to sensitive information on public TV

This is just one more example in a long string of examples of horrific judgement on the part of clinton......horrific judgement an mental faculties that are consistent with individual suffering from brain injuries.......we dont need someone with brain injjuries and cognitive difficulties in the big chair
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Google is your friend....use it

It doesnt take a brain surgeon to figure out that its a "Bad Idea TM" to lend credibility to sensitive information on public TV

This is just one more example in a long string of examples of horrific judgement on the part of clinton......horrific judgement an mental faculties that are consistent with individual suffering from brain injuries.......we dont need someone with brain injjuries and cognitive difficulties in the big chair
How is it sensitive information when everyone already knows about it and a well known band even wrote a song about it almost 10 years ago?
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