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      09-02-2015, 02:17 PM   #375
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Why would the M2 come as an LCI model? Am I missing something? LCI models will get a B series engine. M2 gets the N series engine -- hence, not LCI... or CarPlay, or OLED lights. Granted, my 335is had the N54 engine with LCI parts, but it was for all purposes, just another e92.
Engines and LCI are two totally different things. They often coincide, but there's no dependency either way.

So, to clarify:
- 2016 M2 - not LCI
- 2017 230i and M240i - not LCI, just new engines, plus whatever parts BMW adds across the board for the new model year (in this case wifi hotspot)
- 2018 230i and M240i - LCI with engines introduced a year earlier.
- 2018 M2 will get new LCI design features in the places that it shares with regular 2er cars. Whether it will also be called LCI, is unknown - BMW is very inconsistent in that regard when it comes to M cars.
Thanks for this clarification. I guess you haven't heard anything about the M2 Csl on your side yet?
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      09-02-2015, 02:29 PM   #376
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CarPlay shouldn't take years to implement... Mercedes, Audi, Volkswagen and a lot more already offer it. Shame on you BMW, shame on you.
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      09-02-2015, 03:10 PM   #377
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Why would the M2 come as an LCI model? Am I missing something? LCI models will get a B series engine. M2 gets the N series engine -- hence, not LCI... or CarPlay, or OLED lights. Granted, my 335is had the N54 engine with LCI parts, but it was for all purposes, just another e92.
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I meant an LCI model in terms of the lighting upgrades. Not the engine. I didn't mean it in the sense of the new engine for the M240i.
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      09-02-2015, 03:22 PM   #378
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When are the OLED lights coming?
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      09-02-2015, 03:30 PM   #379
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Can't wait to see these organic lights in person. I prefer to call them lazer lights though.
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Can't wait to see these organic lights in person. I prefer to call them lazer lights though.
They're not laser lights, though. BMW's laser headlights are an entirely different thing, and those aren't slated to come to the US for a while.
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      09-02-2015, 03:41 PM   #382
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I meant an LCI model in terms of the lighting upgrades. Not the engine. I didn't mean it in the sense of the new engine for the M240i.
Got it. Still seems like historically the M models are a step behind the non-M counterparts, even with production dates being close. The e92 M3 never even got the cool, white halogens that had been present on the LCI non-Ms for a while.
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I hope CarPlay is an optional thing. I have CarPlay on my other car and never use it. I like the iDrive interface SO MUCH more.

Besides, CarPlay is very limited. If you want to switch to FM radio or a CD, you can't do that from within CarPlay. You have to exit CarPlay first. That's not a smooth, quick operation when driving.
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      09-02-2015, 03:44 PM   #384
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Well MY2016's are out so no Carplay until MY2017.

Probably not getting into another lease, but if I did, it would be a MY2016 ... shoot!
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I hope CarPlay is an optional thing. I have CarPlay on my other car and never use it. I like the iDrive interface SO MUCH more.

Besides, CarPlay is very limited. If you want to switch to FM radio or a CD, you can't do that from within CarPlay. You have to exit CarPlay first. That's not a smooth, quick operation when driving.
Might vary from person to person, but I don't know anyone I am friends or work with that listens to FM radio anymore. Apple's ad-free stations do me just fine.

That said, I haven't actually used CarPlay, but think Apple in general has UI down way better than BMW.
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      09-02-2015, 04:03 PM   #387
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The difference in power between the M2 And M240i will be very slim hope the price difference will be slim too.
40hp is slim?
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Are the 2ers getting OLED as well? Or is that for the 4er and up?
It's unclear atm where OLED will go.
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      09-02-2015, 04:06 PM   #388
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That's some nice updates, about the CarPlay will it be a Dual Boot thing with iDrive?

I never tried CarPlay with a car that has a decent system; ie BMW iDrive or Audi MMI for example...
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The difference in power between the M2 And M240i will be very slim hope the price difference will be slim too.
40hp is slim?
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Are the 2ers getting OLED as well? Or is that for the 4er and up?
It's unclear atm where OLED will go.
That depend of what is the final output of the M2 let say 365hp versus a 335hp M240i that is even worst than the 35hp difference between the 1m and the 135i.
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      09-02-2015, 04:25 PM   #390
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40hp is slim?
Not to mention:

Brakes
DCT
Real suspension
Exhaust
Substantive motor/cooling changes
Wheels
Wider track/body
Etc, etc...

Basically the same list of shit that's different between a 3er and M3, 4er and M4, etc., etc...

I lived with a 235 for 17 months - the M2 is going to be a very very different experience...and I know that because I have driven the F80X M cars enough to know that firsthand.
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That's some nice updates, about the CarPlay will it be a Dual Boot thing with iDrive?

I never tried CarPlay with a car that has a decent system; ie BMW iDrive or Audi MMI for example...
CarPlay pales in comparison to iDrive imo. I guess it's a great option for cars that don't have a these features.
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40hp is slim?
Not to mention:

Brakes
DCT
Real suspension
Exhaust
Substantive motor/cooling changes
Wheels
Wider track/body
Etc, etc...

Basically the same list of shit that's different between a 3er and M3, 4er and M4, etc., etc...

I lived with a 235 for 17 months - the M2 is going to be a very very different experience...and I know that because I have driven the F80X M cars enough to know that firsthand.
Not quite the same list of shit. Some of the things that the M3 and M4 have over their non-M counterparts include carbon fiber body panels, optional carbon ceramic brakes, optional M Performance exhausts, optional LED headlights, and unique seats. The M2 won't have any of these.
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Not quite the same list of shit. Some of the things that the M3 and M4 have over their non-M counterparts include carbon fiber body panels, optional carbon ceramic brakes, optional M Performance exhausts, optional LED headlights, and unique seats. The M2 won't have any of these.
Still doesn't mean he's wrong. LED headlights and a CF roof/trunk are not going to exactly transform the way a car drives

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CarPlay pales in comparison to iDrive imo. I guess it's a great option for cars that don't have a these features.
I agree. IMO CarPlay is great for those cars who don't have an established or polished infotainment system (majority of the car industry). I don't blame BMW for taking their time in implementing CarPlay. I think BMW has done a great job with improving iDrive over the years. Unless you absolutely need iOS-like functionality in your BMW, I don't see why you would use CarPlay over iDrive with its built in iPhone support (assuming you have the required add ons).
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Engines and LCI are two totally different things. They often coincide, but there's no dependency either way.

So, to clarify:
- 2016 M2 - not LCI
- 2017 230i and M240i - not LCI, just new engines, plus whatever parts BMW adds across the board for the new model year (in this case wifi hotspot)
- 2018 230i and M240i - LCI with engines introduced a year earlier.
- 2018 M2 will get new LCI design features in the places that it shares with regular 2er cars. Whether it will also be called LCI, is unknown - BMW is very inconsistent in that regard when it comes to M cars.
Will the 2018 M2 be getting the B58 engine?
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CarPlay pales in comparison to iDrive imo. I guess it's a great option for cars that don't have a these features.
yeah exactly...that why I'm asking how BMW is going to offer CarPlay? as part of iDrive? optional boot?
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