[MyFirst340]

I don't know anything about exhausts but I'd love just a tad more oomph. I never had an exhaust before and I'm addicted to the stock Sport settings. Now I want more but don't want to spend the $4,000 on the MPPSK. Anything affordable that gives you just a bit more oomph that's Lease friendly (or reversable). Mind you I know nothing about this. If there isn't an option that's fine but just wondering if there's something simple (and safe) that gives it a tad more punch.

Thanks

[MomoM3]

With a lease you can only go with either a BMW or Dinan exhaust. I don't believe either provides an increase in performance - just sound.

I'm currently on the fence between the M Performance Exhaust and Dinan Free Flow Exhaust.

[MyFirst340]

Originally Posted by MomoM3

With a lease you can only go with either a BMW or Dinan exhaust. I don't believe either provides an increase in performance - just sound.

I'm currently on the fence between the M Performance Exhaust and Dinan Free Flow Exhaust.

What's with the difference between MPerformance and MPPSK?
My car has everything (Msport, Track etc..) except MPPSK.

Dinan is covered by BMW? How much do they run? (installed). I was talking about sound, performance I'm happy with.

Thanks!

[PeterA90]

Get the Dinan mid pipe. 499 and BMW approved. Just saved you 500+... profit?

[MomoM3]

Originally Posted by MyFirst340

What's with the difference between MPerformance and MPPSK?
My car has everything (Msport, Track etc..) except MPPSK.

Dinan is covered by BMW? How much do they run? (installed). I was talking about sound, performance I'm happy with.

Thanks!

The M Performance Exhaust (or "MPE") is ONLY the exhaust, whereas the MPPSK is the ECU tune + a different version of the MPE altogether. Both exhausts look the same but are incompatible with each other and sound different. In other words you can't just buy the MPE and upgrade to the MPPSK... you'll need to replace the exhaust altogether.

Yes, generally speaking, Dinan is basically considered OEM so you won't have a problem returning a lease.

The BMW MPE is ~$1000 but you need add either chrome (+~$200) or carbon fiber (+~$500) tips. The Dinan exhaust is ~$1300 but comes with either chrome or black tips for the same price. I can't quote you installation since that can vary greatly.

[MyFirst340]

Originally Posted by PeterA90

Get the Dinan mid pipe. 499 and BMW approved. Just saved you 500+... profit?

You can just have the midpipe? I really know nothing about this.

[MyFirst340]

Originally Posted by MomoM3

The M Performance Exhaust (or "MPE") is ONLY the exhaust, whereas the MPPSK is the ECU tune + a different version of the MPE altogether. Both exhausts look the same but are incompatible with each other and sound different. In other words you can't just buy the MPE and upgrade to the MPPSK... you'll need to replace the exhaust altogether.

Yes, generally speaking, Dinan is basically considered OEM so you won't have a problem returning a lease.

The BMW MPE is ~$1000 but you need add either chrome (+~$200) or carbon fiber (~+$500) tips. The Dinan exhaust is ~$1300 but comes with either chrome or black tips for the same price. I can't quote you installation since that can vary greatly.

Gotcha, only the whole MPPSK is showing up on BMW's website though. Do you have a link for jut the performance exhaust? My car is a'17 340ix Msport

[MomoM3]

Originally Posted by PeterA90

Get the Dinan mid pipe. 499 and BMW approved. Just saved you 500+... profit?

Agreed. If OP is simply looking for sound, this is the way to go.

[MomoM3]

Originally Posted by MyFirst340

Gotcha, only the whole MPPSK is showing up on BMW's website though. Do you have a link for jut the performance exhaust? My car is a'17 340ix Msport

Yes, the MPE alone doesn't come up on the BMW site for some reason...

https://www.getbmwparts.com/partloca...catalogid=4462

[MyFirst340]

Originally Posted by MomoM3

Yes, the MPE alone doesn't come up on the BMW site for some reason...

https://www.getbmwparts.com/partloca...catalogid=4462

Awesome thanks!

So last question, I guess I'm between the Midpipe and the MPE, just looking for sound. Do you guys have sound examples of each? I can't find just the dinan midpipe. I'm not looking wake the neighbors. Thanks again appreciate the info.

Edit: I'm leaning towards MPE, as I love to keep things OEM.

[riskmaker76]

MPE by itself is useless... Very little difference unfortunately - I know too many who have been suckered in then think "oh yea I hear it... Dont you hear it" lol)... The real beauty comes from the mid pipe (resonator delete) and/or catless down pipe (But that comes with a whole slew of challenges in a state with emissions testing - also warranty considerations).

I personally would go Dinan mid pipe and Dinan exhaust - no issues for sure there. Take off your ENTIRE stock exhaust - DONT mangle it so it can be put back on after the lease and you can sell the Dinan parts together OR even separate. The MPE requires you to cut your stock mid-pipe... believe me it wont be enough and IMO a waste of money by itself. You will then add the mid pipe then your original stock exhaust will be useless unless you plant on it having it welded back together.

One last point - removing the resonator will add drone at hiway speed - how bad depends on your tollerance. Some say its fine.. others cant handle the MPPSK drone - which is probably less than after market (though I cant comment)

The key differentiator of the MPPSK over all other solutions is you can literally turn down the noise by switching modes. And the added power is VERY noticeable. I dont mind the drone - when it bothers for for what ever reason I press a button and its back to stock sound..

Lastly exhaust by itself wont add ANY power. The MPPSK adds power because of the tune - the exhaust is one factor but honestly a minor one. A catless down pipe will add power as long as you add a tune to it - wont make much without it.

gl

Originally Posted by MyFirst340

Awesome thanks!

So last question, I guess I'm between the Midpipe and the MPE, just looking for sound. Do you guys have sound examples of each? I can't find just the dinan midpipe. I'm not looking wake the neighbors. Thanks again appreciate the info.

Edit: I'm leaning towards MPE, as I love to keep things OEM.

[MyFirst340]

Originally Posted by riskmaker76

MPE by itself is useless... Very little difference unfortunately - I know too many who have been suckered in then think "oh yea I hear it... Dont you hear it" lol)... The real beauty comes from the mid pipe (resonator delete) and/or catless down pipe (But that comes with a whole slew of challenges in a state with emissions testing - also warranty considerations).

I personally would go Dinan mid pipe and Dinan exhaust - no issues for sure there. Take off your ENTIRE stock exhaust - DONT mangle it so it can be put back on after the lease and you can sell the Dinan parts together OR even separate. The MPE requires you to cut your stock mid-pipe... believe me it wont be enough and IMO a waste of money by itself. You will then add the mid pipe then your original stock exhaust will be useless unless you plant on it having it welded back together.

One last point - removing the resonator will add drone at hiway speed - how bad depends on your tollerance. Some say its fine.. others cant handle the MPPSK drone - which is probably less than after market (though I cant comment)

The key differentiator of the MPPSK over all other solutions is you can literally turn down the noise by switching modes. And the added power is VERY noticeable. I dont mind the drone - when it bothers for for what ever reason I press a button and its back to stock sound..

Lastly exhaust by itself wont add ANY power. The MPPSK adds power because of the tune - the exhaust is one factor but honestly a minor one. A catless down pipe will add power as long as you add a tune to it - wont make much without it.

gl

I don't need power, just wanted to punch up the sound a tad and don't want to break the bank. No way am I spending thousands on a MPPSK total out of pocket needs to be under 2k so you're saying the full dinan setup? or just the midpipe? (that deletes the mode selector apparently..?)

[riskmaker76]

I believe you can get the Dinan Mid Pipe and Exhaust for under 2k...

Dinan Sounds fantastic! and should be able to remove your stock exhaust and put back on later to recover some of your exhaust spend...

I think thats the best way then...

Originally Posted by MyFirst340

I don't need power, just wanted to punch up the sound a tad and don't want to break the bank. No way am I spending thousands on a MPPSK total out of pocket needs to be under 2k so you're saying the full dinan setup? or just the midpipe? (that deletes the mode selector apparently..?)

[MyFirst340]

Originally Posted by riskmaker76

I believe you can get the Dinan Mid Pipe and Exhaust for under 2k...

Dinan Sounds fantastic! and should be able to remove your stock exhaust and put back on later to recover some of your exhaust spend...

I think thats the best way then...

It looks like around $2000 for parts + installation.

Whats your opinion on just the midpipe?

[jalkster]

Originally Posted by MyFirst340

It looks like around $2000 for parts + installation.

Whats your opinion on just the midpipe?

Midpipe only gives a slight volume increase but is noticeable. Not too loud at all, and it can be ran by its self. A lot of people are happy with the outcome. You have to cut your stock midpipe but I dont see why BMW would have a problem (lease return) with a simple Dinan midpipe. If so a muffler shop would weld it back on for no more than $40.

[MyFirst340]

Originally Posted by jalkster

Midpipe only gives a slight volume increase but is noticeable. Not too loud at all, and it can be ran by its self. A lot of people are happy with the outcome. You have to cut your stock midpipe but I dont see why BMW would have a problem (lease return) with a simple Dinan midpipe. If so a muffler shop would weld it back on for no more than $40.

Which can still be controlled with the comfort/sport switch right? I think that may be the best option. So i have them install the midpipe, i keep the stock pipe, and have them switch back if need be at the end of my lease?

At this point it's honestly between the midpipe ($500) and mpe ($900), I appreciate the other guy's info but if I'm paying more than a grand, it's not worth it to me. I just want to make triple sure it's ok with my lease and that the midpipe is the better choice of the mpe.

[jalkster]

Originally Posted by MyFirst340

Which can still be controlled with the comfort/sport switch right? I think that may be the best option. So i have them install the midpipe, i keep the stock pipe, and have them switch back if need be at the end of my lease?

At this point it's honestly between the midpipe ($500) and mpe ($900), I appreciate the other guy's info but if I'm paying more than a grand, it's not worth it to me. I just want to make triple sure it's ok with my lease and that the midpipe is the better choice of the mpe.

Yes your comfort/sport selector will still operate the same, but the difference in overrun(pops and gurgles) will be more apparent with the new midpipe in SPORT. It wont hurt your lease and the midpipe will be more bang for your buck over the MPE without being too loud.

[MyFirst340]

Originally Posted by jalkster

Yes your comfort/sport selector will still operate the same, but the difference in overrun(pops and gurgles) will be more apparent with the new midpipe in SPORT. It wont hurt your lease and the midpipe will be more bang for your buck over the MPE without being too loud.

Awesome! Thanks very much, 500 I can swing for a lease. No CEL right?

[riskmaker76]

Get both and save your stock exhaust... once you cut it you will need to have it welded back together.. dont be cheap... add the Dinan muffler...

And Sport + and Comfort dont make much a sound difference without MPPSK.. Do you hear a difference now? Well its the same... Not sure why your getting misinformation... In other words it will be Little to NO quieter or noisier between the two modes.

Originally Posted by MyFirst340

Awesome! Thanks very much, 500 I can swing for a lease. No CEL right?

[PeterA90]

Just get the midpipe. Personally the Dinan exhaust doesn't sound any different from the stock can. The increase in volume comes from dp or midpipe

[MomoM3]

Originally Posted by riskmaker76

MPE by itself is useless... Very little difference unfortunately - I know too many who have been suckered in then think "oh yea I hear it... Dont you hear it" lol)...

Based on what I've been reading on the forum, I agree with this. Personally, the only reason I'm going MPE is because I was rear ended and the stock exhaust was damaged so instead of having my body shop buy the OEM exhaust, I'm paying the ~$200 difference for the MPE.

[MyFirst340]

Originally Posted by PeterA90

Just get the midpipe. Personally the Dinan exhaust doesn't sound any different from the stock can. The increase in volume comes from dp or midpipe

Thanks I went with Dinan Midpipe. Do I need to take it to a bmw dealer to have it installed or any shop (warranty/lease protection)?