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      11-06-2018, 05:22 PM   #1
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As expected, the reviews are very "meh."

BMW again went with the grand tourer route on this Z4. It's sad that they haven't produced a true sports roadster in 10 years and don't intend to. Porsche remains unchallenged in this segment. But even with them electric steering and the 4-cyl have watered down the fun. Cars will never have that raw connection with the road they once had.

This car looks nice in these videos though. The positives of the styling come out in motion. I'll definitely take a strong look at it in the next 3-4 years.
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As expected, the reviews are very "meh."

BMW again went with the grand tourer route on this Z4. It's sad that they haven't produced a true sports roadster in 10 years and don't intend to. Porsche remains unchallenged in this segment. But even with them electric steering and the 4-cyl have watered down the fun. Cars will never have that raw connection with the road they once had.

This car looks nice in these videos though. The positives of the styling come out in motion.
Do you think that's why the Z4 is faster than the M2?
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You must not be a true bmw fan if you like that Kia grill.
It's not great. Just saying it looks better than the buck tooth designs..
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Do you think that's why the Z4 is faster than the M2?
Which M2? Maybe the OG, not the C. Iíd like to see the average Z4 driver in action on that front, honestly.

And Iíd still take the OG or C M2 over this limp waisted M performance thing.
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Do you think that's why the Z4 is faster than the M2?
Which M2? Maybe the OG, not the C. I’d like to see the average Z4 driver in action on that front, honestly.

And I’d still take the OG or C M2 over this limp waisted M performance thing.
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Do these even sell? Relevant in today's market? Nah.
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Do you think that's why the Z4 is faster than the M2?
BMW is [historically] about steering/handling and driver feedback not speed.
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It's unique at least. I like it.
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Do you think that's why the Z4 is faster than the M2?
BMW is [historically] about steering/handling and driver feedback not speed.
Manual transmission lacking aside, how's the Z4 any worse in those departments than any other model?
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Yeah, Iím not your ďbroĒ - are you 14?

The people buying this car donít typically care about ďgoing fastĒ, and if they do, theyíd get a different brand of car. Additionally, while the car could be quick in a straight line, Iím willing to bet itís no sports car (did you happen to watch the reviews, hint, itís a theme).

Donít let the small size fool you...this is a smallish, fattish roadster that has no business being in the same sentence as a Boxster...or an M2. Or the Supra. But, perhaps if BMW tried, and actually made an M like they did with the E86, youíd have something worth posting thatís more interesting than your initial attempt.

Letís make a bet, and we can even use Canadian dollars in case you lose...I wonder which will sell more. This car, or any variant of the M2?
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So it looks like it can't beat the Boxster. Cool
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Yeah, I’m not your “bro” - are you 14?

The people buying this car don’t typically care about “going fast”, and if they do, they’d get a different brand of car. Additionally, while the car could be quick in a straight line, I’m willing to bet it’s no sports car (did you happen to watch the reviews, hint, it’s a theme).

Don’t let the small size fool you...this is a smallish, fattish roadster that has no business being in the same sentence as a Boxster...or an M2. Or the Supra. But, perhaps if BMW tried, and actually made an M like they did with the E86, you’d have something worth posting that’s more interesting than your initial attempt.

Let’s make a bet, and we can even use Canadian dollars in case you lose...I wonder which will sell more. This car, or any variant of the M2?
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Do you think that's why the Z4 is faster than the M2?
Which M2? Maybe the OG, not the C. I'd like to see the average Z4 driver in action on that front, honestly.

And I'd still take the OG or C M2 over this limp waisted M performance thing.
I agree.

I was thinking maybe I'd replace my M2 with this Z.

I now want to see how well Toyota does with their incoming Supra.
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That Autogefuhl guy, I feel like I just want him to narrate my life story in his voice. Lol!

I still think it's a bit sad that the new Z4 isn't lighter than 3,300lbs, but like many of these car reviewers have stated, the Z4 has never really truly been a pure sports car, more like a luxury roadster. Super cool that the US gets 382hp in the M40i trim though. Moar powah is always a good thing! Lol!
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Manual transmission lacking aside, how's the Z4 any worse in those departments than any other model?
Z3 and first gen Z4 were driver's cars. The E89 started the trend of numb feeling BMWs and it looks like this new Z4 isn't going to be much better. I wouldn't be surprised if it struggles to sell just as the E89 did.
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Manual transmission lacking aside, how's the Z4 any worse in those departments than any other model?
Z3 and first gen Z4 were driver's cars. The E89 started the trend of numb feeling BMWs and it looks like this new Z4 isn't going to be much better.
It will wait to drive it before I discount it anymore.

It's an interesting car none the less.
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I ended up with an E89 because the lease deals were bonkers on them. With the meh reviews, maybe they will be on this car too

I'm probably going to end up with a Boxster GTS when my M3 lease is up though. I was hoping this would be the Z they finally got right, but it doesn't seem to be the case.

Also, is it just me or does that flat wall of carpet behind the seats look really cheap?
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lol, everyone wants the Z4 to be something other than what it is supposed to be. Let's be honest here, most of you wouldn't buy this car regardless unless it's some magical car that can beat a Porsche.

Z4 is a car for a different crowd. Complaining about it won't change it.
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Proves BMW not capable of making a serious sports car. I had a Z4 but no chance of buying one of these. A real disappointment
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