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New BMW Z4 vs Porsche Boxster and Audi TT
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08-13-2019, 10:41 AM | #3 |
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BMW has done a fine job with this new Z4.
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08-14-2019, 05:23 PM | #4 |
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It had been a a couple years since I drove the Boxster so I took one for a spin recently.
I was somewhat disappointed. It's very refined and I was expecting more. The steering, like all EPS racks, is "meh" at best. I've yet to drive the new Z4, but I will say the M2 is way more fun than the Boxster! I think most comparison tests have expressed similar sentiments. Looks like I will be staying within the BMW family with my next purchase. ![]()
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08-14-2019, 05:30 PM | #5 |
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Ouch .. Audi needs a stiff chin for this..
" The TT RS has the performance and makes the right noises, but you feel so far removed from the task of driving the car that it’s difficult to form anything close to a meaningful relationship with it. And unlike the BMW, and particularly the Porsche, you also feel as though you’re perched on top of the car rather than in it, so it’s difficult to ignore those hatchback underpinnings. " |
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I really like how sharp this new Z4 looks. I was checking some out on the lot at BMW San Diego the other day. Really a shame they aren't making coupe versions of this generation. (hurr Supra, i know)
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BMW needs to make this a coupe. And then an M.
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08-14-2019, 06:35 PM | #10 |
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Porsche losing a comparo to BMW? Car & Driver execs must be neck deep in bewilderment.
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08-14-2019, 07:02 PM | #11 |
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To be fair, C/D usually picks the best handling vehicle their winner, regardless of other faults, and even this comparison said that the Porsche is the best handling of the group, but I'm sure everyone expected that.
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Yes, I get that. But I actually like the look of the BMW better and would want to see an M car. Plus...the BMW come with a heated steering wheel.
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Each time I see a review about Audi.... there is raving about the motor... it's sound.. and the handling in the wet... but in the dry.... there is always disappointment because of the weight and the lack of a sporty feel for AWD in the dry. It's exactly this concern that I have when it comes to BMW which really seems to be pushing X drive on their SAV (of course), also on their regular models like the 2er, 3er, 5er, and M-Xdrive has now come to the M cars as well.. ![]() While BMW does sporty better than Audi... it just seems that BMW is giving in to FWD and AWD for better profits... and forsaking their RWD roots, leaving disappointed enthusiasts in their wake. The review of cars by @joshuastein55. is an excellent example of this. While BMW is giving more credence to it's AWD and FWD rivals by playing into their hands and trying to beat them at their game , BMW is also losing the exact thing that made them successful and differentiated them in the market place to begin with. Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 08-14-2019 at 07:36 PM.. |
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![]() I agree that BMW has become a lot like Audi, and it's not just because they are doing FWD on some cars. It's the steering, they drive more like Audis now than BMWs of yesteryear.
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I just ask, cause you even found the Boxster's steering to be disappointing, so it sounds like there might not be many cars out there with steering good enough for your preference.
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I've read criticism over the years about the current Boxster/Cayman's steering. I think I was a little harsh though, I was expecting more but it was still good enough to the point I wouldn't write off the car. The last Boxster I drove was an S and it was a riot overall. Maybe the lack of power in the base model the other day skewed my overall perception of the car. ![]() I had driven the ATS as a rental and enjoyed the EPS in that. I'm sure the other GM performance products have good EPS as well (Camaro, Corvette, etc.). My current DD is a 2nd generation Lexus IS, post-refresh. It's also EPS and is surprisingly good. Definitely better than the new 3-series. That wheel doesn't turn with one finger even at the lowest speeds, as it should be. ![]()
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The SupraZ is an over-designed train wreck.
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No HUD or centre console screen was a minus also for me. I wanted to really like the tt as since it's conception I have always admired its design but it really wasn't the car for me. |
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