[Deho]

Hello there!

I've been following the G30 scene and yesterday I visited the BMW configurator on the German site to find out the following on what seems to be the 2023 model:

1. New colors! Sophisto Grey, Skyscraper Grey and Arctic Race Blue were added while Dark Graphite and Bluestone are out.
2. The Bowers and Wilkins sound system doesn't seem to be available anymore :-(

Do you think the model available on the German configurator is indeed the 2023 model? That would make sense since it is supposed to start manufacturing in July. Also, notice any other changes?

[LogicalApex]

Pricing and ordering guides were posted previously. So you can cross validate there.

https://g30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1927747

B&W was moved to the M550i only starting in MY2021.

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by Deho

Hello there!

I've been following the G30 scene and yesterday I visited the BMW configurator on the German site to find out the following on what seems to be the 2023 model:

1. New colors! Sophisto Grey, Skyscraper Grey and Arctic Race Blue were added while Dark Graphite and Bluestone are out.
2. The Bowers and Wilkins sound system doesn't seem to be available anymore :-(

Do you think the model available on the German configurator is indeed the 2023 model? That would make sense since it is supposed to start manufacturing in July. Also, notice any other changes?

I'm pretty sure Sophisto is what they call Dark Graphite in Europe.

[Deho]

Originally Posted by LogicalApex

Pricing and ordering guides were posted previously. So you can cross validate there.

https://g30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1927747

B&W was moved to the M550i only starting in MY2021.

Thanks I hadn't seen that! I don't know how much relevance it has for me personally though since the packages are very different in Canada. But it confirms the limited availability of the B&W sound system and the color changes.

[AmooManiak]

BMW's logic - increase base price while removing options. Pay same $ for less options.

https://www.motor1.com/news/591435/b...s-and-changes/

[LogicalApex]

Originally Posted by AmooManiak

BMW's logic - increase base price while removing options. Pay same $ for less options.

https://www.motor1.com/news/591435/b...s-and-changes/

And the trimming of incentives! Let us also not forget insane lease rates.

Makes for a pretty painful time to upgrade.

I'll be holding off...

[AmooManiak]

Originally Posted by LogicalApex

And the trimming of incentives! Let us also not forget insane lease rates.

Makes for a pretty painful time to upgrade.

I'll be holding off...

Yep! And making an "at MSRP" deal sound like a bargain With a 2023, you are basically paying more for less.

[smacky]

Originally Posted by NGT2

I'm pretty sure Sophisto is what they call Dark Graphite in Europe.

I found this out last summer when I couldn't find DGM anywhere on this sub and instead there was a thread for Sophisto instead.

Glad it wasn't taken away. I think it's one of the more great colors out there that isn't too "loud" (Sao Paolo, Dakar, etc.).

It's definitely not a popular color but coming from a BSM E60, it was still dark enough without being the same.

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by smacky

I found this out last summer when I couldn't find DGM anywhere on this sub and instead there was a thread for Sophisto instead.

Glad it wasn't taken away. I think it's one of the more great colors out there that isn't too "loud" (Sao Paolo, Dakar, etc.).

It's definitely not a popular color but coming from a BSM E60, it was still dark enough without being the same.

I have no idea how popular or unpopular it is, but I guess I don't see a ton of them. I feel like I've seen other DGM SUV's here and there, but I haven't seen another DGM g30.

I do think more people would order it if they saw it in person. I think it's a more interesting color than black sapphire metallic. But you really can't appreciate the color if you don't see it in person. The bmw site doesn't represent it accurately at all.

[PeterTKelly]

Just got a used 2021 540i in DGM. I was less than thrilled about buying a “grey” car but once I saw the car in bright sunlight (something we have been painfully short of lately in the Pacific Northwest) I was very pleased. It’s elegant and classy

[SonD]

Here in the UK, many options are currently not available on the configurator due to shortages.
B&W cannot be added to any model currently, neither the driver assistance pro, or parking assistant, and more.
This will change in time, obviously.
B&W will be back in time (it'll be the amp thats short supply, not the actual speakers), just depends when you order / or what is available when made.

[DerekS]

Originally Posted by PeterTKelly

Just got a used 2021 540i in DGM. I was less than thrilled about buying a “grey” car but once I saw the car in bright sunlight (something we have been painfully short of lately in the Pacific Northwest) I was very pleased. It’s elegant and classy

I also just purchased a "pre-owned" 2021 540ix in Dark Graphite metallic or "Sophisto Grau" as it is described in Germany. Very classy colour in bright sunlight ! Lots of tiny green and silver metallic flecks !

[Grimsbylander]

Originally Posted by NGT2

I'm pretty sure Sophisto is what they call Dark Graphite in Europe.

My 2018 540 is Sophisto right here in Canada.

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by Grimsbylander

My 2018 540 is Sophisto right here in Canada.

Interesting. Well, it's dark graphite here. But however you name it, it's a great color! There isn't a lighting I don't love it in. Full sun to midnight, I love the whole spectrum.

[NGT2]

I wonder when the US build configurator will update for '23. I'm really interested to see if they change any trim options.

[ArchieV]

I think the build configurator for MY 23 should be out within 1-2 weeks. I believe for 22 it was out in late June for US market.

[smacky]

Originally Posted by NGT2

I have no idea how popular or unpopular it is, but I guess I don't see a ton of them. I feel like I've seen other DGM SUV's here and there, but I haven't seen another DGM g30.

I do think more people would order it if they saw it in person. I think it's a more interesting color than black sapphire metallic. But you really can't appreciate the color if you don't see it in person. The bmw site doesn't represent it accurately at all.

When I looked around on Google to get an idea, all I saw were BMW SUVs with it, like the X3 and X5. Any other gray was Donington or Dravit on M models.

They look very similar so I may be seeing them on the road and not recognizing it despite owning one in DGM.

[530iDriver]

Have a 2017.

Personally, I would not buy a new car in this environment unless absolutely and positively warranted.

Supply chain disruptions, among other issues that are impacting the industry globally, I would be hesitant to buy a new car not exactly knowing what I am getting and what's actually missing if you catch my drift.

LCI is supposed to be the pinnacle of the outgoing generation. But my early build G30 has been great, solid and best of all, ASS is permanently disabled via dash button.

At this point, I'll wait it out another 2-3 years and see what the G60 has in store for the 5-Series. I am thinking a second or third production year G60 is the way to go from my perspective.

[AP]

Had a sophisticated grey f10
This was one of 2 colours described as xirallic
Very nice when the sun catches it

Black sapphire I had on my e39 and to be honest was disappointed with that colour as it only looks like a metallic close up with the sun shining on it, otherwise it just looks like gloss black.